Originally Posted by alarmguy
Originally Posted by Rmay635703
Originally Posted by alarmguy
Either way, when you buy something, know what you are buying and dont whine about it if you didnt read what you sign. More so when making a MAJOR purchase. Come on already.
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90% of HOA rules are subjective and non-binding
This in of itself makes an HOA a very questionable venture,
Further, most HOA rules are stupid and irrelevant, if your gone on vacation a week you shouldn't be mandated to do anything, a visual blemish should have nothing to do with repoing your home. The emphasis on property values has gone to ignorant levels and around here values go up and down 20-30% a year depending on local hiring rates. The beauty of the area has much less to do with steady home values unless you live on a lake but even those boom bust.
To be honest LOW property values with slow inflation is generally good for everyone but the bank, (the way things were up through the early 40's)
the trouble is we've been taught to scoop up everything we can afford to rip off people until we are out wining because prices callapsed again.
Our great grandparents had respect for other people's right to do with their property as they will.
We should still have that concept instilled
to mind your own business and everyone would likely be better off.
Given this my stance has been Hoas need to either be banned or have a list dictated at the federal level of 10 things they can make rules on removing vague or subjective from the list of possible offenses .
Certain daily activities need to be protected and off limits to hoa rules, if the hoa interferes with daily life that is a good indication that what they are doing is wrong plain and simple.
And no you shouldn't be required to abide by HOA rules that are wrong, they should not have been allowed to mandate it in the first place
Your entire post is completely wrong.
The HOA has every right to control everything that goes on in your community. Period. It is 100% "binding" and if you dont follow the rules you will be fined, if you dont pay the fine, the HOA will file a lien on your home. An HOA can even foreclose on your home and you gave permission for all of this the day you bought a home controlled by an HOA
I highlighted this because people read words like yours and take an HOA document lightly, its anything but. Its a rock solid BINDING document detailing the rules that must be followed to live in the community.
RIGHT UP FRONT before you purchase anything you are presented with the documents and rules, including the fact that the rules can change at anytime and you will be bound by them.
If you dont like it, then stay away from HOA communities.
The HOA is a democracy, run by the board who the community elects, it maintains the value of homes and no higher end community with good resale values is without one.
I wouldnt live in community without one.
This x 1000
In my slice of paradise, any new development came with a HOA. Period. The builder in my case was very upfront about that and I saw all the documents before closing. I also remember being asked to come back to the sales trailer about a month before closing to read and sign an acknowledgement to an amendment that the city imposed on the subdivison. My HOA enforces some property standards but its main function is to maintain the retention ponds and the common areas around them along with the bike path. And it's doing so at 1/3 the cost of what the city would likely impose on us if they took things over.
But 20 years in there are still peope who insist that they didn't know there was a HOA and that there are certain things on their private property that the HOA can enforce. Personally, I don't know if I'd have the guts to declare to the world that on the biggest purchase of my life, I didn't bother to find out what goes into that, but that's me.
Originally Posted by Rmay635703
Originally Posted by alarmguy
Either way, when you buy something, know what you are buying and dont whine about it if you didnt read what you sign. More so when making a MAJOR purchase. Come on already.
)90% of HOA rules are subjective and non-binding
This in of itself makes an HOA a very questionable venture,
Further, most HOA rules are stupid and irrelevant, if your gone on vacation a week you shouldn't be mandated to do anything, a visual blemish should have nothing to do with repoing your home. The emphasis on property values has gone to ignorant levels and around here values go up and down 20-30% a year depending on local hiring rates. The beauty of the area has much less to do with steady home values unless you live on a lake but even those boom bust.
To be honest LOW property values with slow inflation is generally good for everyone but the bank, (the way things were up through the early 40's)
the trouble is we've been taught to scoop up everything we can afford to rip off people until we are out wining because prices callapsed again.
Our great grandparents had respect for other people's right to do with their property as they will.
We should still have that concept instilled
to mind your own business and everyone would likely be better off.
Given this my stance has been Hoas need to either be banned or have a list dictated at the federal level of 10 things they can make rules on removing vague or subjective from the list of possible offenses .
Certain daily activities need to be protected and off limits to hoa rules, if the hoa interferes with daily life that is a good indication that what they are doing is wrong plain and simple.
And no you shouldn't be required to abide by HOA rules that are wrong, they should not have been allowed to mandate it in the first place
Your entire post is completely wrong.
The HOA has every right to control everything that goes on in your community. Period. It is 100% "binding" and if you dont follow the rules you will be fined, if you dont pay the fine, the HOA will file a lien on your home. An HOA can even foreclose on your home and you gave permission for all of this the day you bought a home controlled by an HOA
I highlighted this because people read words like yours and take an HOA document lightly, its anything but. Its a rock solid BINDING document detailing the rules that must be followed to live in the community.
RIGHT UP FRONT before you purchase anything you are presented with the documents and rules, including the fact that the rules can change at anytime and you will be bound by them.
If you dont like it, then stay away from HOA communities.
The HOA is a democracy, run by the board who the community elects, it maintains the value of homes and no higher end community with good resale values is without one.
I wouldnt live in community without one.
This x 1000
In my slice of paradise, any new development came with a HOA. Period. The builder in my case was very upfront about that and I saw all the documents before closing. I also remember being asked to come back to the sales trailer about a month before closing to read and sign an acknowledgement to an amendment that the city imposed on the subdivison. My HOA enforces some property standards but its main function is to maintain the retention ponds and the common areas around them along with the bike path. And it's doing so at 1/3 the cost of what the city would likely impose on us if they took things over.
But 20 years in there are still peope who insist that they didn't know there was a HOA and that there are certain things on their private property that the HOA can enforce. Personally, I don't know if I'd have the guts to declare to the world that on the biggest purchase of my life, I didn't bother to find out what goes into that, but that's me.
