Surprising that Toyota internal testing did not find this problem before the truck was mass produced.
Failing 5.7 liters
Failing 5.7 liters
Failing Tundra Engines
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It's unclear from the article if Toyota or its customers found the problem though it appears some customer vehicles were effected. If it really is a supplier problem and not a design issue then these sorts of things will be ongoing until they get better and more reliable suppliers. It's not like they can 100% test every item they buy.
I wouldn't worry about them just yet Buster. I'll worry when they continue like some other companies in the business - Building problematic engines and vehicles for up to a decade without fixing well known and expensive design flaws and manufacturing issues...
I wouldn't worry about them just yet Buster. I'll worry when they continue like some other companies in the business - Building problematic engines and vehicles for up to a decade without fixing well known and expensive design flaws and manufacturing issues...
yea. Overtaking GM's sales can only mean one thing, taking the torch from GM too...
Only place to go from the top is down...
How much would UPS/Fed-Ex charge for this engine to be overnighted? I'd bet close to $600.
These things happen. So far they aren't nearly to the problems the GM intakes have suffered.
So far....
These things happen. So far they aren't nearly to the problems the GM intakes have suffered.
So far....
At least Toyota will show the Big 3 how to properly handle a problem. Chevy has known about the fragile 4l60 trans for years and wont do anything about it. I have an 04 Express van with 62K mile son it. I am now on my 3rd transmission.
My Brother In Law has a very early release Tundra. It was sold to him the night before Toyota allowed there dealers to start selling them, so I bet if its an early model problem then his will fit that.
My Brother In Law has a very early release Tundra. It was sold to him the night before Toyota allowed there dealers to start selling them, so I bet if its an early model problem then his will fit that.
I would look at the driver(s) as the source of the problem.
Look into who the sub contractor was...it may surprise you.
I cannot confirm this to state as fact, but what I have read, the sub contractor was an American company.
I cannot confirm this to state as fact, but what I have read, the sub contractor was an American company.
IMO, this is the kind of thing you can expect when you go with the lowest bidder. I'm more and more glad each day that my sister got a Toyota before their quality issues began. Her 2001 Tacoma just cleared 110K with 0 days in the shop....quite a feat for a vehicle she drives.
I looked into who the sub contractor that made the disintegrating wiring harnesses that Ford used for three model years of the Contour/Mystique. Ford offered an extended warranty to replace the wiring harnesses, 100K or 10 years. I expect it probably cost them close to $2K per vehicle to replace these.
A company called Yazaki. Not an American company.
For whatever perverse reason, Ford still uses them for wiring harnesses. They chose them to make the wiring harnesses for the hybrid Escape.
You know, 12V disintegrating wiring harnesses are bad enough, but 300V (or more) disintegrating wiring harnesses could be a little exciting...
Is this a serious statement? Toyota has already shown their true colors when it comes to these types of issues. They would not recall their sludgomatics. It took much litigation to force them into their last recall. Toyota never does anything the right way. They wait till they are legally forced to do something to do it.
This is why I like Honda. In my opinion, they handle things the right way. Remember the Odometer issue? It was within spec and they still chose to fix the problem
Once again;
It's easy to build 1 million cars around the world reliably but to build 3 million, like the domestics have for decades, is a different story. Toyota is figuring out it isn't easy! Maybe the domestics have been doing as good as anyone else could all this time and have been chastized for it? The more of your cars on the road, the more chances for failure, and the number of people hearing about your product's quality misfortune with increase exponentially. It'll be interesting to see in 5 years what people still think of Toyotas if thier quality right now is as good as it can get...
It's easy to build 1 million cars around the world reliably but to build 3 million, like the domestics have for decades, is a different story. Toyota is figuring out it isn't easy! Maybe the domestics have been doing as good as anyone else could all this time and have been chastized for it? The more of your cars on the road, the more chances for failure, and the number of people hearing about your product's quality misfortune with increase exponentially. It'll be interesting to see in 5 years what people still think of Toyotas if thier quality right now is as good as it can get...
OH HOW THE MIGHTY HATH FALLEN
Its funny you say this because one of the biggest problems on toyota's hands at the moment is a defective transmission in the 2007 V6 camry's and Lexus ES350's. They have this mostly cold flare/spike in rpms while driving normally. If you go on ebay you'll find a lot of 2007 camry's and ES350's on auction as "buybacks" due to customers getting a different car because a second transmission still had the same problem. They still have not fixed the problem!
I think Toyota really, really shot themselves in the foot with the new Tundra. They were so convinced that it was necessary to convince the not-to-be-convinced that their truck is American and is as masculine as a "meatball sub." Instead, no matter how tough their truck is, it will always be nothing more than a '85 Toyota Pickup with a lift kit on it to the vast majority of Ford and Chevy pickup owners. Instead, they should have built something along the lines of the old Tundra, about the same size with the 4.7 V8. But then they should have also made it get around 30 MPG while still being able to tow (not as much as 10,000 pounds, but who needs to do that every day?) Thus the average Camry driver would have been able to commute in it everyday, while also being able to haul mulch or tow the boat over the weekend. I believe that if they had taken this approach instead of building a monster, they would not be having to put incentives on the Tundra. Thus the morons on Honshu need to return to what they have always done best: building reliable, practical, economical vehicles for the average Joe, rather than attempting to convince the Talladega beer can slingers (I'm not saying that all Chevy and Ford truck drivers are like this) that their truck is "American". In the end with the new Tundra they satisfied nobody. The average Joe avoids it because it gulps fuel and the Ford and Chevy loyalists won't buy it either. And I will agree, it is overly complex for a vehicle that gets such poor fuel economy.
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