Or just repair the damaged section and move on.
Extreme Heat Causes Pavement on I-94 to Buckle in Minnesota
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Find the story or record where road broke. There is something different or anomaly/edge case that caused this particular time.
No there isn't. You have knowledge of something I don't know about? I live here and it happens every year. There was no record or anything out of the norm other than maybe a poorly built or aging roadway. Do a search of our local news stations and there are stories of this every year. It has happened since I was born.
That maybe the most poorly written article from someone who knows nothing about what they are writing about.
"On Wednesday, Moorhead reached a high of 98 degrees, the hottest it has been since June 19, 2022, when the mercury spiked to 101 degrees."
So it hasn't been this hot since last summer... You could say that every June, July, and August.
"States in permafrost regions can expect 70 percent of their roads to be torn apart by the ground softening beneath them. Excessive rain is a concern for much of the country, including Minnesota, MnDOT reported. Warmer weather has lead to few freeze thaw cycles, which are one of the main weather events that cause the scourge of the midwest — potholes."
This is all BS. MN is not a "permafrost" region, nor is anyplace in the US other than northern AL. Warmer weather leading to less freeze thaw cycles (which isn't happening...) should help the roads not hurt them. They contradict themselves. MN has horrible potholes every spring.
This is written by someone that did a Google search and used all the buzzwords.
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The jalopnik article was trash - big surprise. I mostly never click on them.
I did click on the MNDOT twitter, and they said nothing about climate change, just that extreme heat buckled the road.
Blame the correct entity - the trash that are currently called the media.
I presume this is like every other engineering problem - that are can likely see -30 to +100 in the sun. A road can be made to withstand that, but no one wants to pay for it - so as usual corners are cut.
I did click on the MNDOT twitter, and they said nothing about climate change, just that extreme heat buckled the road.
Blame the correct entity - the trash that are currently called the media.
I presume this is like every other engineering problem - that are can likely see -30 to +100 in the sun. A road can be made to withstand that, but no one wants to pay for it - so as usual corners are cut.
I could see how excessive rain is bad for pavement. Those puddles of standing water and the drainage ditches spilling out over the pavement (typical in heavy rainstorms on the 2 lane roads around here) can't be good for it. The solution is adequate drainage, but most of these 2-lane roads have had NOTHING done to them except getting paved.
Jalopnik is based in New York. They modified everything from Google searches to fit the climate agenda.
They will probably write another one in January or February about how the extreme cold is affecting things like it has never happened before. It will also be the "coldest it has been since last January..."
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What's hilarious is the original tweet with the photos were not photos of the actual buckle in Moorhead, but stock photos from MnDOT. One of them is on 35W in Bloomington (look at the road sign Minneapolis area residents).
The tweet was to advise that buckles were possible, given that it was the hottest its been this year. All of our roadways are built to allow this expansion, but there are cases where things shift, move, or are damaged, and something gives. Aged concrete is the typical culprit, as is the joint between adjacent paving projects.
The tweet was to advise that buckles were possible, given that it was the hottest its been this year. All of our roadways are built to allow this expansion, but there are cases where things shift, move, or are damaged, and something gives. Aged concrete is the typical culprit, as is the joint between adjacent paving projects.
Thanks for trying to give the better Dakota credit here, but what you actually mean is North Dakota.
Lies. I’ve lived in eastern SD my whole life and we hit triple digits a few days every summer. We are the land of temperature extremes. Roads always start buckling in the 90s. Shoddy low-bid work is the culprit here, but people on a certain bandwagon like to jump to conclusions.
To be fair to Shel_B, the AccuWeather article called it South Dakota as well, so maybe he was relaying the misinformation from the article.
At least they were consistent and got everything wrong instead of just a little bit wrong. If you are going to screw up, screw it up good!
I was going to say… it’s not “extreme heat” that’s causing damage. It’s the “extreme neglect” caused by folks in the capitol spending tax dollars on the wrong things.
Infrastructure should not be an “optional” expense… if somebody before you built it for public use, the new guys don’t get to ignore the required maintenance just so they can spend the money how they want.
We had a couple here recently that required the road to be shut down for repair .
umm, not what NWS records for Sioux Falls say, but whatever.
They're probably a part of the conspiracy as well.
Sioux falls averages 1.67 days per year over 100 degrees based on the last 99 years of NWS records, so I'm not sure what part of a few days every year the argument is over...
Some people are clueless about the world. We went on vacation a few years ago to a tropical place in the summer and we got talking with some people we met. When they learned we were from MN the first thing they asked was if it was cold and if there was still snow on the ground. They were surprised to learn it was about the same temp as the place we were at.
stop picking on electric cars
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