EU may limit all cars to 70MPH??
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Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: MCompact
My Mazdaspeed is limited to 155. That's the lowest restriction I tolerate.
You'd hate my car. Limited by redline and gearing to like 137.
But the 328i will get there quickly enough that the Mazda will be too far back to catch up.
Originally Posted By: MCompact
My Mazdaspeed is limited to 155. That's the lowest restriction I tolerate.
You'd hate my car. Limited by redline and gearing to like 137.
But the 328i will get there quickly enough that the Mazda will be too far back to catch up.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
How many of you remember the 55mph national speed limit? It was a total farce and made driving any length of distances miserable. If the EU wants to limit the speed limit to 70mph don't limit the vehicle speed but enforce the speed limit. As said previously sometimes to avoid an accident you need speed. Just another example of government wanting to control your life as THEY feel it should be.
Whimsey
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
You obviously never drove REAL long distances on highways with that speed limit with cops all over place to ticket you going 56 mph for revenue. I had a 1982 Datsun 280ZX. Even doing 55 I'd get pulled over for "speeding". I finally got a passport radar detector. When I got pulled over for "speeding" I asked the officer how he clocked me. He'd usually say on radar then I'd say I didn't get a signal on my detector and asked him to turn his radar on. 100% of the time they refused to do it. It was a miserable time on our highways. The average 65-75 mph speed limit is sooo much better for travel on highways built for those speeds and more. You have to be really speeding to get stopped, as you should be. Setting intelligent speed limits based upon the design of the roads is the smart way to go.
Whimsey
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
How many of you remember the 55mph national speed limit? It was a total farce and made driving any length of distances miserable. If the EU wants to limit the speed limit to 70mph don't limit the vehicle speed but enforce the speed limit. As said previously sometimes to avoid an accident you need speed. Just another example of government wanting to control your life as THEY feel it should be.
Whimsey
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
You obviously never drove REAL long distances on highways with that speed limit with cops all over place to ticket you going 56 mph for revenue. I had a 1982 Datsun 280ZX. Even doing 55 I'd get pulled over for "speeding". I finally got a passport radar detector. When I got pulled over for "speeding" I asked the officer how he clocked me. He'd usually say on radar then I'd say I didn't get a signal on my detector and asked him to turn his radar on. 100% of the time they refused to do it. It was a miserable time on our highways. The average 65-75 mph speed limit is sooo much better for travel on highways built for those speeds and more. You have to be really speeding to get stopped, as you should be. Setting intelligent speed limits based upon the design of the roads is the smart way to go.
Whimsey
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
You'd hate my car. Limited by redline and gearing to like 137.
My Club Sport tops out at 130(I removed the idiotic 116 mph limiter) but it takes a while to get up to that speed. Ditto for the X3. The Jeep and '02 are all done by 100. I don't know what the limited speed of the E90 is; something ridiculous I'm sure.
You'd hate my car. Limited by redline and gearing to like 137.
My Club Sport tops out at 130(I removed the idiotic 116 mph limiter) but it takes a while to get up to that speed. Ditto for the X3. The Jeep and '02 are all done by 100. I don't know what the limited speed of the E90 is; something ridiculous I'm sure.
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
You obviously never drove REAL long distances on highways with that speed limit with cops all over place to ticket you going 56 mph for revenue. I had a 1982 Datsun 280ZX. Even doing 55 I'd get pulled over for "speeding". I finally got a passport radar detector. When I got pulled over for "speeding" I asked the officer how he clocked me. He'd usually say on radar then I'd say I didn't get a signal on my detector and asked him to turn his radar on. 100% of the time they refused to do it. It was a miserable time on our highways. The average 65-75 mph speed limit is sooo much better for travel on highways built for those speeds and more. You have to be really speeding to get stopped, as you should be. Setting intelligent speed limits based upon the design of the roads is the smart way to go.
Whimsey
I used an Escort(and later a V1) and a Cobra CB in my Arrow 2.6 GT and my 1973 Bavaria in those days. I usually drove at @80 mph on rural interstates. Since that asinine law was repealed and sensible limits have been enacted I drive the same speed when the linit is 70-75, and no more than 5-10 over when the limit is 55 or 65. That means I can leave my V1 at home.
You obviously never drove REAL long distances on highways with that speed limit with cops all over place to ticket you going 56 mph for revenue. I had a 1982 Datsun 280ZX. Even doing 55 I'd get pulled over for "speeding". I finally got a passport radar detector. When I got pulled over for "speeding" I asked the officer how he clocked me. He'd usually say on radar then I'd say I didn't get a signal on my detector and asked him to turn his radar on. 100% of the time they refused to do it. It was a miserable time on our highways. The average 65-75 mph speed limit is sooo much better for travel on highways built for those speeds and more. You have to be really speeding to get stopped, as you should be. Setting intelligent speed limits based upon the design of the roads is the smart way to go.
Whimsey
I used an Escort(and later a V1) and a Cobra CB in my Arrow 2.6 GT and my 1973 Bavaria in those days. I usually drove at @80 mph on rural interstates. Since that asinine law was repealed and sensible limits have been enacted I drive the same speed when the linit is 70-75, and no more than 5-10 over when the limit is 55 or 65. That means I can leave my V1 at home.
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
How many of you remember the 55mph national speed limit? It was a total farce and made driving any length of distances miserable. If the EU wants to limit the speed limit to 70mph don't limit the vehicle speed but enforce the speed limit. As said previously sometimes to avoid an accident you need speed. Just another example of government wanting to control your life as THEY feel it should be.
Whimsey
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
You obviously never drove REAL long distances on highways with that speed limit with cops all over place to ticket you going 56 mph for revenue. I had a 1982 Datsun 280ZX. Even doing 55 I'd get pulled over for "speeding". I finally got a passport radar detector. When I got pulled over for "speeding" I asked the officer how he clocked me. He'd usually say on radar then I'd say I didn't get a signal on my detector and asked him to turn his radar on. 100% of the time they refused to do it. It was a miserable time on our highways. The average 65-75 mph speed limit is sooo much better for travel on highways built for those speeds and more. You have to be really speeding to get stopped, as you should be. Setting intelligent speed limits based upon the design of the roads is the smart way to go.
Whimsey
Oh, because I disagree I have never driven long distance at 55MPH?
Plenty of long trips( 1000 miles+ )thanks. 55-60MPH, with 65MPH the max, is plenty fast. You and I definitely have a different view of sensible speed limits.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
How many of you remember the 55mph national speed limit? It was a total farce and made driving any length of distances miserable. If the EU wants to limit the speed limit to 70mph don't limit the vehicle speed but enforce the speed limit. As said previously sometimes to avoid an accident you need speed. Just another example of government wanting to control your life as THEY feel it should be.
Whimsey
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
You obviously never drove REAL long distances on highways with that speed limit with cops all over place to ticket you going 56 mph for revenue. I had a 1982 Datsun 280ZX. Even doing 55 I'd get pulled over for "speeding". I finally got a passport radar detector. When I got pulled over for "speeding" I asked the officer how he clocked me. He'd usually say on radar then I'd say I didn't get a signal on my detector and asked him to turn his radar on. 100% of the time they refused to do it. It was a miserable time on our highways. The average 65-75 mph speed limit is sooo much better for travel on highways built for those speeds and more. You have to be really speeding to get stopped, as you should be. Setting intelligent speed limits based upon the design of the roads is the smart way to go.
Whimsey
Oh, because I disagree I have never driven long distance at 55MPH?
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
My pic came out bad but yes, L/100km.
Conversion is 3.875L=1 gal and 100km=62.5mi
So I was burning 4.3L = 1.1gal per 62.5mi.
Or I was getting 56.8 MPG at 171km/h~108 MPH sustained somewhere across southern Germany.
30 mpg would be like 13L/100km.
Not quite...my Caprice is getting about 12l/100km at present, which is closer to 20MPG US...
L/100km is a stupid measure, people think in "how far will $10 get me" in normal life.
My pic came out bad but yes, L/100km.
Conversion is 3.875L=1 gal and 100km=62.5mi
So I was burning 4.3L = 1.1gal per 62.5mi.
Or I was getting 56.8 MPG at 171km/h~108 MPH sustained somewhere across southern Germany.
30 mpg would be like 13L/100km.
Not quite...my Caprice is getting about 12l/100km at present, which is closer to 20MPG US...
L/100km is a stupid measure, people think in "how far will $10 get me" in normal life.
There's a point in the OP...
Here, 110km/hr is the most that you can legally drive...get caught at 140km/hr, and it's game over for driving for a while for most of us.
As a teen, getting our 60s/70s cars modded to 120MPH was a pretty big ask, now most family cars in Oz can get there easily...
Should a family car, sold in the country, be able to do twice the legal limit ?
Can't say why it should (or shouldn't)...but then the rules say that because it CAN do that speed, the tyres MUST be rated for it. Stupid when 99.999% of the time, nobody would ever reach an S rating, and most retreads are rated to 140km/hr.
Here, 110km/hr is the most that you can legally drive...get caught at 140km/hr, and it's game over for driving for a while for most of us.
As a teen, getting our 60s/70s cars modded to 120MPH was a pretty big ask, now most family cars in Oz can get there easily...
Should a family car, sold in the country, be able to do twice the legal limit ?
Can't say why it should (or shouldn't)...but then the rules say that because it CAN do that speed, the tyres MUST be rated for it. Stupid when 99.999% of the time, nobody would ever reach an S rating, and most retreads are rated to 140km/hr.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Oh, because I disagree I have never driven long distance at 55MPH?
We didn't have to go through the double nickel up here. But, when I had the old LTD, 55 mph was pretty sensible. With a top speed of 74 mph - well, you can imagine how wonderful that was.
Oh, because I disagree I have never driven long distance at 55MPH?
We didn't have to go through the double nickel up here. But, when I had the old LTD, 55 mph was pretty sensible. With a top speed of 74 mph - well, you can imagine how wonderful that was.
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I'm quite confident mine has been removed, and I had read it was quite easy to do. Which means I'm RPM limited to ~190Mph.
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: earlyre
haven't all euro cars been electronically limited to 150mph for years now? and please correct me if i'm wrong, but there's not an external limiter, it's programmed into the ECU?
Our Xj8 is set really low - 121 or 122 mph. Thanks to the limiter, it's probably got the lowest top speed in my fleet, save for the S-10.
The decade older Xj12 is 155 or 158 mph, don't recall. It has no problem hitting it, though. The '8 is so much lighter, I expect it would bury the '12 but for that silly speed limiter.
Isn't the EU the same pinheads that mandate minimum hood heights on cars, and also killed off hood ornaments, to make it "safer" when a pedestrian gets run over? I seem to recall one of the new Jaguars having a hood that pops up when it senses a pedestrian strike so as to satisfy this crazy requirement.
Most likely, the XJ8 is limited because it had H-rated tires from the factory. (My Magnum was governed for the same reason.)
I don't think so, but the next time I'm at the Cat House I'll try to remember to take a look at them.
Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: earlyre
haven't all euro cars been electronically limited to 150mph for years now? and please correct me if i'm wrong, but there's not an external limiter, it's programmed into the ECU?
Our Xj8 is set really low - 121 or 122 mph. Thanks to the limiter, it's probably got the lowest top speed in my fleet, save for the S-10.
The decade older Xj12 is 155 or 158 mph, don't recall. It has no problem hitting it, though. The '8 is so much lighter, I expect it would bury the '12 but for that silly speed limiter.
Isn't the EU the same pinheads that mandate minimum hood heights on cars, and also killed off hood ornaments, to make it "safer" when a pedestrian gets run over? I seem to recall one of the new Jaguars having a hood that pops up when it senses a pedestrian strike so as to satisfy this crazy requirement.
Most likely, the XJ8 is limited because it had H-rated tires from the factory. (My Magnum was governed for the same reason.)
I don't think so, but the next time I'm at the Cat House I'll try to remember to take a look at them.
Is there any aspect of life you don't want the government to control?
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
How many of you remember the 55mph national speed limit? It was a total farce and made driving any length of distances miserable. If the EU wants to limit the speed limit to 70mph don't limit the vehicle speed but enforce the speed limit. As said previously sometimes to avoid an accident you need speed. Just another example of government wanting to control your life as THEY feel it should be.
Whimsey
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
You obviously never drove REAL long distances on highways with that speed limit with cops all over place to ticket you going 56 mph for revenue. I had a 1982 Datsun 280ZX. Even doing 55 I'd get pulled over for "speeding". I finally got a passport radar detector. When I got pulled over for "speeding" I asked the officer how he clocked me. He'd usually say on radar then I'd say I didn't get a signal on my detector and asked him to turn his radar on. 100% of the time they refused to do it. It was a miserable time on our highways. The average 65-75 mph speed limit is sooo much better for travel on highways built for those speeds and more. You have to be really speeding to get stopped, as you should be. Setting intelligent speed limits based upon the design of the roads is the smart way to go.
Whimsey
Oh, because I disagree I have never driven long distance at 55MPH?
Plenty of long trips( 1000 miles+ )thanks. 55-60MPH, with 65MPH the max, is plenty fast. You and I definitely have a different view of sensible speed limits.
55 is sensible? Not a chance. Personally I think speed limits should go up. 75/70 in more open aareas, 60-65 in more populated, urban area highways. Texas has the right idea, with 80 and 85mph speed limits.
Have you ever driven the NYS thruway? It's long, it's flat, it's straight. Heck even I-88 is very open. And you want the SL to be 55? Why? 65 is already slow enough. I commute every day 60 miles highway, and I don't want the speed limit lowered any further, I already spend too much of my day in the car.
Since 55 is sensible, why not go further? 45? 35. I'm sure that would save loads of lives if they lowered it and enforced it.
Let's be reasonable, speed alone doesn't kill. Someone who is going to get in an accident at 75 is not much less likely to get in one at 55. Instead of trying to force people to slow down, why don't we focus on trying to make people better drivers/more aware of their surroundings?
It's wrongly assuming that driving faster is automatically much more dangerous.
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
How many of you remember the 55mph national speed limit? It was a total farce and made driving any length of distances miserable. If the EU wants to limit the speed limit to 70mph don't limit the vehicle speed but enforce the speed limit. As said previously sometimes to avoid an accident you need speed. Just another example of government wanting to control your life as THEY feel it should be.
Whimsey
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
You obviously never drove REAL long distances on highways with that speed limit with cops all over place to ticket you going 56 mph for revenue. I had a 1982 Datsun 280ZX. Even doing 55 I'd get pulled over for "speeding". I finally got a passport radar detector. When I got pulled over for "speeding" I asked the officer how he clocked me. He'd usually say on radar then I'd say I didn't get a signal on my detector and asked him to turn his radar on. 100% of the time they refused to do it. It was a miserable time on our highways. The average 65-75 mph speed limit is sooo much better for travel on highways built for those speeds and more. You have to be really speeding to get stopped, as you should be. Setting intelligent speed limits based upon the design of the roads is the smart way to go.
Whimsey
Oh, because I disagree I have never driven long distance at 55MPH?
55 is sensible? Not a chance. Personally I think speed limits should go up. 75/70 in more open aareas, 60-65 in more populated, urban area highways. Texas has the right idea, with 80 and 85mph speed limits.
Have you ever driven the NYS thruway? It's long, it's flat, it's straight. Heck even I-88 is very open. And you want the SL to be 55? Why? 65 is already slow enough. I commute every day 60 miles highway, and I don't want the speed limit lowered any further, I already spend too much of my day in the car.
Since 55 is sensible, why not go further? 45? 35. I'm sure that would save loads of lives if they lowered it and enforced it.
Let's be reasonable, speed alone doesn't kill. Someone who is going to get in an accident at 75 is not much less likely to get in one at 55. Instead of trying to force people to slow down, why don't we focus on trying to make people better drivers/more aware of their surroundings?
It's wrongly assuming that driving faster is automatically much more dangerous.
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Let's be reasonable, speed alone doesn't kill. Someone who is going to get in an accident at 75 is not much less likely to get in one at 55. Instead of trying to force people to slow down, why don't we focus on trying to make people better drivers/more aware of their surroundings?
But that would mean they can't talk on their cell phone, txt, do makeup, drink coffee, do a crossword puzzle, read a book while driving. You actually expect people to pay attention to driving, wow, that is a lot to ask of people now.
BTW I 100% completely agree with what you said in case other people's sarcasm meters are broken.
Let's be reasonable, speed alone doesn't kill. Someone who is going to get in an accident at 75 is not much less likely to get in one at 55. Instead of trying to force people to slow down, why don't we focus on trying to make people better drivers/more aware of their surroundings?
But that would mean they can't talk on their cell phone, txt, do makeup, drink coffee, do a crossword puzzle, read a book while driving. You actually expect people to pay attention to driving, wow, that is a lot to ask of people now.
BTW I 100% completely agree with what you said in case other people's sarcasm meters are broken.
Originally Posted By: Nick R
55 is sensible? Not a chance. Personally I think speed limits should go up. 75/70 in more open aareas, 60-65 in more populated, urban area highways. Texas has the right idea, with 80 and 85mph speed limits.
Have you ever driven the NYS thruway? It's long, it's flat, it's straight. Heck even I-88 is very open. And you want the SL to be 55? Why? 65 is already slow enough. I commute every day 60 miles highway, and I don't want the speed limit lowered any further, I already spend too much of my day in the car.
Since 55 is sensible, why not go further? 45? 35. I'm sure that would save loads of lives if they lowered it and enforced it.
Let's be reasonable, speed alone doesn't kill. Someone who is going to get in an accident at 75 is not much less likely to get in one at 55. Instead of trying to force people to slow down, why don't we focus on trying to make people better drivers/more aware of their surroundings?
It's wrongly assuming that driving faster is automatically much more dangerous.
Yes, 55 is very sensible with most Police allowing a 5-10 MPH cushion above that before tickets are issued so in effect 55 would be 60-65.
70-75 would result in people going 90+. No way.
Yes, I have driven the NY State Thruway many times. 55 is more than reasonable there with people going that extra 5-10 MPH as I said.
I disagree that speed isn't a big factor in accidents. People go way too fast and it absolutely makes it more likely they will get into an accident either through lack of driving skill or decreased reaction time. 55( with 60-65 being the max allowed )is plenty fast for the highways. IMOA.
If you are spending too much time in the car going to work move or get a closer job. No one forces you to commute that far. While I realize that is easier said than done, again, you made the choice to commute that far so you have to deal with it.
I am also in favor of lower the speed limits to help conserve fuel too. The amount of fuel wasted in this country by people going 75, 80, 85+ is mind blowing.
People can disagree. Just voicing my opinion. I just wish people would lay off the "you haven't driven here" or "you obviously haven't done...." stuff. Just because I don't agree that people need to go 70 MPH+ on the highway does not mean I haven't driven in a lot of different places and/or long distance.
FWIW I will be driving from NH to VA next week. I will set my CC @ 60 MPH out on the highway. I will get to my destination only an hour later than if I went 70 MPH, I won't grow old and qualify for Social Security on the way, and I will get optimum MPG from my vehicle. No reason to go faster.
55 is sensible? Not a chance. Personally I think speed limits should go up. 75/70 in more open aareas, 60-65 in more populated, urban area highways. Texas has the right idea, with 80 and 85mph speed limits.
Have you ever driven the NYS thruway? It's long, it's flat, it's straight. Heck even I-88 is very open. And you want the SL to be 55? Why? 65 is already slow enough. I commute every day 60 miles highway, and I don't want the speed limit lowered any further, I already spend too much of my day in the car.
Since 55 is sensible, why not go further? 45? 35. I'm sure that would save loads of lives if they lowered it and enforced it.
Let's be reasonable, speed alone doesn't kill. Someone who is going to get in an accident at 75 is not much less likely to get in one at 55. Instead of trying to force people to slow down, why don't we focus on trying to make people better drivers/more aware of their surroundings?
It's wrongly assuming that driving faster is automatically much more dangerous.
Yes, 55 is very sensible with most Police allowing a 5-10 MPH cushion above that before tickets are issued so in effect 55 would be 60-65.
70-75 would result in people going 90+. No way.
Yes, I have driven the NY State Thruway many times. 55 is more than reasonable there with people going that extra 5-10 MPH as I said.
I disagree that speed isn't a big factor in accidents. People go way too fast and it absolutely makes it more likely they will get into an accident either through lack of driving skill or decreased reaction time. 55( with 60-65 being the max allowed )is plenty fast for the highways. IMOA.
If you are spending too much time in the car going to work move or get a closer job. No one forces you to commute that far. While I realize that is easier said than done, again, you made the choice to commute that far so you have to deal with it.
I am also in favor of lower the speed limits to help conserve fuel too. The amount of fuel wasted in this country by people going 75, 80, 85+ is mind blowing.
People can disagree. Just voicing my opinion. I just wish people would lay off the "you haven't driven here" or "you obviously haven't done...." stuff. Just because I don't agree that people need to go 70 MPH+ on the highway does not mean I haven't driven in a lot of different places and/or long distance.
FWIW I will be driving from NH to VA next week. I will set my CC @ 60 MPH out on the highway. I will get to my destination only an hour later than if I went 70 MPH, I won't grow old and qualify for Social Security on the way, and I will get optimum MPG from my vehicle. No reason to go faster.
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Is there any aspect of life you don't want the government to control?
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
That is quite the overreaction. Speed limits are not government "controlling" our lives. Wow.
Is there any aspect of life you don't want the government to control?
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
That is quite the overreaction. Speed limits are not government "controlling" our lives. Wow.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
People can disagree. Just voicing my opinion. I just wish people would lay off the "you haven't driven here" or "you obviously haven't done...." stuff. Just because I don't agree that people need to go 70 MPH+ on the highway does not mean I haven't driven in a lot of different places and/or long distance.
^^ While I disagree vehemently with the rest of what you said, I agree strongly with this part. People shouldn't make assumptions about you based on what you say. I've committed that sin many times myself and it got me nowhere fast.
Just one suggestion. If you don't like it when people get personal, this probably should not have been your first post in the thread:
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
People can disagree. Just voicing my opinion. I just wish people would lay off the "you haven't driven here" or "you obviously haven't done...." stuff. Just because I don't agree that people need to go 70 MPH+ on the highway does not mean I haven't driven in a lot of different places and/or long distance.
^^ While I disagree vehemently with the rest of what you said, I agree strongly with this part. People shouldn't make assumptions about you based on what you say. I've committed that sin many times myself and it got me nowhere fast.
Just one suggestion. If you don't like it when people get personal, this probably should not have been your first post in the thread:
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
People can disagree. Just voicing my opinion. I just wish people would lay off the "you haven't driven here" or "you obviously haven't done...." stuff. Just because I don't agree that people need to go 70 MPH+ on the highway does not mean I haven't driven in a lot of different places and/or long distance.
^^ While I disagree vehemently with the rest of what you said, I agree strongly with this part. People shouldn't make assumptions about you based on what you say. I've committed that sin many times myself and it got me nowhere fast.
Just one suggestion. If you don't like it when people get personal, this probably should not have been your first post in the thread:
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
I am sorry but how is that anything but responding to a comment made by the other member who said going 55 was miserable? I wasn't attacking anyone just making a comment that you have to be someone who routinely goes fast on the highway to find 55 miserable. IF you already go 60-65 like I do would going back to 55 really be miserable? I apologize if it came across like an attack. Was just made as a matter of fact type statement.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
People can disagree. Just voicing my opinion. I just wish people would lay off the "you haven't driven here" or "you obviously haven't done...." stuff. Just because I don't agree that people need to go 70 MPH+ on the highway does not mean I haven't driven in a lot of different places and/or long distance.
^^ While I disagree vehemently with the rest of what you said, I agree strongly with this part. People shouldn't make assumptions about you based on what you say. I've committed that sin many times myself and it got me nowhere fast.
Just one suggestion. If you don't like it when people get personal, this probably should not have been your first post in the thread:
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I remember it well. The only people who found it miserable are those who have to go 80. I wish they would bring the 55 SL back and enforce it. Too many lead foots out there.
I am sorry but how is that anything but responding to a comment made by the other member who said going 55 was miserable? I wasn't attacking anyone just making a comment that you have to be someone who routinely goes fast on the highway to find 55 miserable. IF you already go 60-65 like I do would going back to 55 really be miserable? I apologize if it came across like an attack. Was just made as a matter of fact type statement.
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