Edge black vs Edge gold

[aquariuscsm]

My apologies in advance if this has been covered before,but since the current black bottle Edge now has titanium (which it didn't before),what exactly is the difference between the two? Is one "better" than the other or would that be subjective?

 

[addyguy]

I'd have to find it, but I asked this exact question before, and there is no real answer....there are so many variables...

Gold bottle is the US is now guaranteed to 15k miles, so it has become a long-drain oil. I think it has more detergents, and more of the Ti additive.

In Canada, Gold bottle is just marketed as Castrol's 'strongest oil', so I suspect it has more Ti in it. No long-drain claims.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Similar question asked last week:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb..._Ca#Post3758418

While definition of "better" is obviously subjective, for my applications, Edge black 0w-40 and 0w30 are the best, because they meet some of the most stringent engine mfg specs in existence today, such as MB 229.5 for example.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: addyguy
I'd have to find it, but I asked this exact question before,

Here is that thread:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...d_g#Post3657579

 

[HTSS_TR]

Edge black vs gold is similar to M1 vs M1 EP.

I don't know if Edge gold is available in 0W30 and 0W40, but Edge black 0W30 and 0W40 are pretty good.

 

[KCJeep]

In my experience and also from UOA observations here, Gold has been crazy shear resistant. Black bottle more typical (still good). Castrol told somebody here last week Gold has more Ti in it too.

Both are very good lubes at any rate.

 

[wemay]

How i view it...

Edge black 0w40
Edge gold (any)
Edge black (other than 0w40)
GTX green (blends in HM or Magnatec)
GTX white

 

[Gearhead1194]

Originally Posted By: KCJeep
In my experience and also from UOA observations here, Gold has been crazy shear resistant. Black bottle more typical (still good). Castrol told somebody here last week Gold has more Ti in it too.

Both are very good lubes at any rate.


That was me they stated the extended performance has more titanium than the edge black bottle. But I believe the extended performance isn't available in 0w

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Castrol told somebody here last week Gold has more Ti in it too.

That's nice, but how does it make it better?

 

[Ed_Flecko]

Originally Posted By: KCJeep
..."Gold has been crazy shear resistant"...


I'm intrigued with Castrol - can you tell me what makes you state this? i.e., have you seen any data to support this claim, etc., etc.

Thank you!

Ed

 

[WankelRotorHead]

Originally Posted By: wemay
How i view it...

Edge black 0w40 or 0w-30
Edge gold (any)
Edge black (other than 0w40)
GTX green (blends in HM or Magnatec)
GTX white


The GC and BG 0w30 is top tier stuff as well

 

[aquariuscsm]

I've been curious about the gold Edge for quite some time. Walmart no longer carries Edge 10W40. I'd thought about the 0W40,but Nissan's Z32 FSM specifically says to not go below a 10W. Current Nissan TSB also says the same thing,"Do not go below a 10W on 300ZX". I'd emailed Mobil awhile back and they even told me not to use their 0W40 but instead to use the 10W30-10W40. I guess I've always been a stickler for saying within mfg specs.

I've been using 10W40 (which definitely feels like the sweet spot for my car and what the sticker under the hood says to use over 60F and to use 10W30 under 60F). I'd just pondered on the gold Edge if I decide to use a 10W30 over a 10W40.

 

[typ901]

Too bad the Castrol Q & A is not still available. This was answered back then too from Castrol.

That said the Castrol 0w-40 works well in my son's BMW!

 

[QMartinez]

How is the gold Castrol different from this http://billigbilpleie.no/Resources/Files/C/edge-pro-5W30-1ltr.png?

Gold bottle Castrol Edge Professional A5 5w30 with titanium. Where does this oil fit with the Gold and Black?

 

[KCJeep]

Originally Posted By: Ed_Flecko
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
..."Gold has been crazy shear resistant"...


I'm intrigued with Castrol - can you tell me what makes you state this? i.e., have you seen any data to support this claim, etc., etc.

Thank you!

Ed


If you can find the older UOA I posted on it, it was 7k in our KIA 5w20 virtually no shear in that run and I have seen the same trend in other UOA's of it here as well, aside from heavy fuel dilution which nothing stands up to.

 

[KCJeep]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Current Nissan TSB also says the same thing,"Do not go below a 10W on 300ZX". I'd emailed Mobil awhile back and they even told me not to use their 0W40 but instead to use the 10W30-10W40.


Silly on their part as the 0w40 is thicker, and meets more stringent specs, than any 10w30 Edge or M1 ever will. Typically they just parrot manufacturers specs without using any brain cells though.

Surely Nissan engineers know the "0" has to do with cold performance and not "weight"?

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: QMartinez
How is the gold Castrol different from this http://billigbilpleie.no/Resources/Files/C/edge-pro-5W30-1ltr.png?

This Prof version appears to be formulated on the thinner side of 30, compared to Edge Gold...

http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/Fusion...XE-8HMJ5N_0.pdf

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: BikeWhisperer
Originally Posted By: wemay
How i view it...

Edge black 0w40 or 0w-30
Edge gold (any)
Edge black (other than 0w40)
GTX green (blends in HM or Magnatec)
GTX white


The GC and BG 0w30 is top tier stuff as well


Absolutely - sometimes i just reference Walmart available stuff blindly.

 

[Solarent]

Originally Posted By: typ901
Too bad the Castrol Q & A is not still available. This was answered back then too from Castrol.

That said the Castrol 0w-40 works well in my son's BMW!


Do you mean this one
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/castrol-edge-qa/

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Current Nissan TSB also says the same thing,"Do not go below a 10W on 300ZX". I'd emailed Mobil awhile back and they even told me not to use their 0W40 but instead to use the 10W30-10W40.


Silly on their part as the 0w40 is thicker, and meets more stringent specs, than any 10w30 Edge or M1 ever will. Typically they just parrot manufacturers specs without using any brain cells though.

Surely Nissan engineers know the "0" has to do with cold performance and not "weight"?


I agree with you on this as well. Looking at Castrol's pds,the 0W40 is thicker cold AND hot than the 10W30. So imo,the 0W40 would be a good replacement for the 10W40.