Does anyone know what B&M TrickShift and TickShift Synthetic really is?

[Alex D]

Some have said it is just an inproved Ford type F fluid. Does anyone here uses it in their GM transmission? if yes, how does it compare??

Any comments about B&M TrickShift are appreciated.

ADDITION: I jsut read on the B&M site that regular B&M Trick SHift is not recommended for electronic transmissions, B&M TrickShift Synthetic is though.

[ December 01, 2003, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: Alex D ]

 

[MolaKule]

B&M products are in the Ford Type-F category; very similar to Redline's Racing ATF and Amsoil's "SuperShift."

These ATF's contain little or no Friction Modifiers and are little more than 5W20 hydraulic fluids with some AW's, detergents, and antioxidants. The more B&M you use, the more crisp and abrupt the shifting, whether the dino oil variety or the synthetic variety.

 

[Alex D]

Mola Kule,
Have you used their synthetic? How much firmness improvement do they give?

 

[MolaKule]

In one of our vehicles, it took three quarts before we noticed any firmness in shifting.


My recommendation (assuming your going to race) is to obtain a valve transfer or valve retiming gasket (sometimes called a "valve body spacer plate") just for racing and use synthetic ATF.


With an all B&M synthetic run (in Modified Stock class), the shifting in a GM 700-R4 was almost unbearable and caused fluid temperatures to skyrocket, and this was with a factory "valve body spacer plate."

Don't expect a daily driver transmission to last very long with this "trick" fluid.

[ December 02, 2003, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]

 

[chucky2]

MolaKule- This post really caught my eye!

Just helped my girlfriends brother change out the (assumed factory) transmission fluid in his 1998 Camaro Z28 w/ 6-spd and put in all B&M TrickShift; can't remember if it was the synthetic or not.

Should we drain it out and put in something different?

If we should, what would you recommend?

Thanks!

Chuck

 

[MolaKule]

Chucky2,


B&M trickshift fluids are mainly ATF fluids with Type-F friction characteristics.

Is your transmission a 6-spd manual shift that calls for ATF or Synchromesh?

If it calls for Synchromesh, then Redline MTL or Pennzoil Synchromesh may work.

 

[got boost?]

use GM synchromesh

 

[chucky2]

MolaKule- Thanks for getting back to me (us)!

All I know about his trans is that it's a 6-spd manual, definitely the original that came with the car.

So, whatever a '98 Camaro Z28 6-spd takes is what it takes.

Did the Camaro 6-spd's take different kinds of fluid in them, like one run of took ATF and another took Synchromesh?

So, it sounds like your recommending Redline MTL or Pennzoil Synchromesh if it calls for a Synchromesh type fluid, what if it calls for ATF?

got boost?- Use GM Synchromesh because that's what they all take, because that's the best no matter what, or something different?

Thanks for the help everyone, I just don't want to see his car messed up!

Chuck

 

[got boost?]

I believe all the ls1's specify syncromesh. I think the LT1's wanted ATF. I have been told that GM snychromesh works best. the best advice: use whatever the owners manual requires. redline makes excellent fluids, if you want to go that route call them for their recommendation.

 

[chucky2]

got boost?- Yeah, looking at the owners manual would help I guess...

Will have to find out if it needs Synchromesh or ATF, then I'll do some more research.

Preliminary research shows synthetic ATF's eating up clutch bands or something like that in some of these transmissions, depending on model year?

Any 1998 LS1 6-spd guys around here can shed any light on this?

Thanks again!

Chuck

 

[chucky2]

Just a humble bump to see if any other f-body 6-spd owners have gone through this?

Thanks!

Chuck

 

[chucky2]

Just posting here to say I've started a new thread located here: 1998 Camaro 6 speed: ATF or Synchromesh?.

Sorry for hijacking your thread Alex D!

Chuck