Dino Oil - Outdated Term??

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Maybe someone purchased a Ford recently. It's part of the BOLD MOVES persona
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Science and archaeology indicate a very short time frame for this planet, and life on it.
Carbon 14 dating has shown living mollusks to be 3,000 years old. It can be useful for measuring less than one half life, however.
Other radio dating techniques are questionable because we don't know the conditions that were previously present.
There should be millions of 'missing links', but there is not even one.
It takes great faith to believe in evolution.
 
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Originally posted by Ron AKA:

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Originally posted by ekpolk:
*CAUTION: If you're even remotely involved in such a thing, seek advice from a lawyer in your own jurisdiction.

Current preparing for an arbitration and using many lawyers.


Then the difference should be readily apparent. I respectfully invite you to click on my screen name and note what it is that I actually do in the military.
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Hint: I've spent more time in a courtroom than my living room (at least it feels that way...).

If my previous posts on this came off as harsh, my apologies. The Mobil-Castrol dispute thing has, after a decade or so of being batted around on the internet, transmogrified into a monstrosity that it just isn't. Again, Castrol just started doing something (calling G-III "synthetic") that they could have done all along. Mobil failed in its bid to alter the status quo. I guess you can call it hairsplitting, but it really is incorrect to say that Castrol won the right to call G-III "synthetic", since they had the right all along (and of course, still do).
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I think the dinosaurs need lawyer. They gave up there lives and for what? So we would not even give them the recognition that there blood is pumping through all of our vehicles ? The tragedy. Don't you know who the mascot for Sinclair ( hope I typed that right) oil is ?

LOL.
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Originally posted by mechtech:
Science and archaeology indicate a very short time frame for this planet, and life on it.
Carbon 14 dating has shown living mollusks to be 3,000 years old. It can be useful for measuring less than one half life, however.
Other radio dating techniques are questionable because we don't know the conditions that were previously present.
There should be millions of 'missing links', but there is not even one.
It takes great faith to believe in evolution.


I can think of a few missing links....

such as the ones which provide this "scientific" evidence of a younf Earth....
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[ August 15, 2006, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: MarkC ]
 
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Do I really need to educate you about radioisotope dating and pakeo-stratigraphy?
Funny, the great majority of folks who doubt science are those who don't understand it very well.
When do you think dinosaurs walked the planet?


You are going to rely assumptions that extrapolate present information for millions of years and then have complete confidence in the results? That takes a lot of faith. Origins is a matter of faith, whether you believe evolution or creation, because neither is in the relm of true science where you can replicate experiments.

I really could not tell you when the dinosaurs walked the earth because I was not there and to avoid getting too deeply into the "R" topic, I will avoid further comment on it.

I will just leave you with a reference discussing fourteen natural phenomena that conflict with the evolutionary idea that the universe is billions of years old.
 
Shortly after Mobil lost their lawsuit, most oil companies started reformulating their synthetic oils to use Group III base stocks instead of PAOs or diester stocks as their primary component. Most of the "synthetic oil" you can buy today is actually mostly made of this highly-distilled and purified dino-juice called Group III oil. Group III base oils cost about half as much as the synthetics. By using a blend of mostly Group III oils and a smaller amount of "true" synthetics, the oil companies can produce a product that has nearly the same properties as the "true" synthetics, and nearly the same cost as the Group III oil. The much more expensive traditional synthetics are now available in their pure forms only in more expensive and harder to obtain oils. To the best of my knowledge, Delvac-1, AMSOil, Redline, and Motul 5100 are the only oils made from pure traditional synthetics.

I found the above quote at http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/oils1.html
I don't see Mobil 1 mentioned as a full synthetic oil. This has been discussed here previously. How do you know for sure what the oil companies do? It's a sure thing they will do just about anything to make a big profit.
Is Mobil 1 a pure synthetic oil or not? How can You prove it?
 
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Originally posted by MarkC:
Agenda-base data with no basis in fact.

Is you post an opinion, or fact.

I don't see anything backing up this assertion.

I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just pointing out that you make a bold assertion without presenting anything to bolster your argument.
 
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Originally posted by mechtech:

It takes great faith to believe in evolution.


It takes a **** of a lot more faith to believe that the earth/laws of physics sprung up out of nowhere in a day, a few thousand years ago. I guess all those physicists are full of ****!
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Back on topic, I agree with however said "conventional" over the term dino.
 
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Originally posted by westex39:
Shortly after Mobil lost their lawsuit, most oil companies started reformulating their synthetic oils to use Group III base stocks instead of PAOs or diester stocks as their primary component. Most of the "synthetic oil" you can buy today is actually mostly made of this highly-distilled and purified dino-juice called Group III oil. Group III base oils cost about half as much as the synthetics. By using a blend of mostly Group III oils and a smaller amount of "true" synthetics, the oil companies can produce a product that has nearly the same properties as the "true" synthetics, and nearly the same cost as the Group III oil. The much more expensive traditional synthetics are now available in their pure forms only in more expensive and harder to obtain oils. To the best of my knowledge, Delvac-1, AMSOil, Redline, and Motul 5100 are the only oils made from pure traditional synthetics.

I found the above quote at http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/oils1.html
I don't see Mobil 1 mentioned as a full synthetic oil. This has been discussed here previously. How do you know for sure what the oil companies do? It's a sure thing they will do just about anything to make a big profit.
Is Mobil 1 a pure synthetic oil or not? How can You prove it?


Have you read the rest of the thread? First, Mobil will openly tell you about the composition of the M1 products, not actual precise blending recipes and exact amounts of this or that, but they'll tell you the basics of for forumulation. Including that the predominant base oil is Polyalphaolefin (PAO). Just ask them yourself and see. M1 is not a G-III product.

Second, for the third or fourth time, there was no lawsuit, none at all. Just an arbitration that really changed nothing. Castrol (or any one else for that matter) could have called G-III "synthetic" at any time they wanted to, Castrol was just the first to do it, and Mobil failed in their attempt to stop them.

Third, your description of the making of a G-III is not accurate. It's not simply a cleaned up and purified dino oil (your description more accurately matches G-II). The basic reason Castrol prevailed in the arbitration was that the molecular structure altering processes that are involved in the making of a G-III were deemed enough to be classified as "synthesis", thus the use of the term "synthetic" is not (arguably) fraudulent or misleading.

Finally, are you really relying on "Motorcycle Information and Accessories" website as authoritative on oil composition? Well, actually if you are, you should check the site today. They draw a clear distinction between G-III oils and Synthetics (IV and V), and then in several different places refer to Mobil-1 as "synthetic". See here for example.

Yes, accurate facts do matter. . .
 
Not all "referrences" are necessarily linear. I would think that billions of years of "trail runs" would have little meaning to a goat herder. Consider it the "Cliff Notes" version for the geologically, biologically, and otherwise challenged.


dino or deano ...what's the difference
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I don't think it takes any more faith to believe that matter was either always there, or spontaneously organized itself into life today than it does to believe in a supreme being that said let there be...

At some point, each require faith regarding something that cannot be observed.

In both cases, we are looking at the evidence and trying to determine how it happened.
 
Guys, please, let's show some respect for Tony, the forum, and the rules we all agreed to abide by. The entwined sub-thread is far from oil and in, or at the border of, R/S/P territory.
 
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