Dino Oil - Outdated Term??

[moribundman]

Originally posted by TallPaul:

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Prove it.

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I don't have to prove anything to flatearthlers.

 

[ekpolk]

Steady guys. We're in America, but on BITOG too. Best we all steer clear of R/S/P before this thread prematurely finds itself in the boneyard.

 

[BrianWC]

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Originally posted by MarkC:

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Originally posted by BrianWC:

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Originally posted by Kestas:
Recently there's been discussion that oil and coal deposits have nothing to do with dinosaurs and old tropical forests, and that they are simply naturally occurring stratified geological minerals same as iron ore and copper ore.

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There aren't a whole lot of petroleum geologists that agree with that theory, though. It basically gets a lot of play whenever a declining field begins to produce a lot more than expected due to some unanticipated reason. I think there's been some discussion in the off topic forum.

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Diatoms.

http://www.priweb.org/ed/pgws/systems/energy_capture/capture.html

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I know MarkC.

I was referring to the Abiogenic theory...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin

 

[Ron AKA]

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Originally posted by ekpolk:
*CAUTION: If you're even remotely involved in such a thing, seek advice from a lawyer in your own jurisdiction.

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Current preparing for an arbitration and using many lawyers.

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

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Originally posted by Ron AKA:

Did you develop that list of oils by group by reading the MSDS sheets? As you relate they are quite often vaguely written. And, if you find out what group they are in at any point in time what assurance they continue to use that base oil, or more likely blend of base oils.

Do you view the Group I and II as dino oils or does the term dino also include group III. They are obviously all mineral oil based, just processed differently. My reason for questioning the value/accuracy of the term.

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Well, I developed the list by hanging out here for 3+ years.

Seriously, reading all those posts, trends develop. Others read the MSDS sheets and post that here. Most people focus on a certain set of oils, so I consider them most knowlegeable in their sector of this hobby. For example, want to know about Amsoil? Pablo and TooSlick can give you all the info you want to know. Pennzoil/Shell/QS? Send Johnny a private message. GC? There's an entire forum dedicated to that. Valvoline? TallPaul. Need an oil analysis interpretation? Terry Dyson. ...And the list goes on...too many to name individually in one post. There's some EXTREMELY knowlegeable people here. We all chip-in to help debunk so many myths and find as much truth as can be had about a given topic.

(I can't believe I'm bearing down on 4000 posts. I need to get a life! LOL!)

Dino mainly means Group I and II oils. Since Castrol pushed "synth" as group III, the term 'dino' doesn't necessarily apply in a given conversation....but it can apply when talked about in a "real synth" (Group IV/PAO) vs "faux synth" (Group III) debate.

 

[Auto-Union]

A higher base number means it MUST be more expensive and work better.

 

[moribundman]

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Best we all steer clear of R/S/P

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The "S" stands for science now?

 

[dbvettez06]

Quick question: What group oils are say Castrol GTX Penzoil, regular Quaker State?? Bit confusing...Thanks

 

[Gary Allan]

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Originally posted by Auto-Union:
A higher base number means it MUST be more expensive and work better.

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(visions of Han Solo as 3PO told him that the main power coupling had become polarized and would require replacement)

Well, off course. Everyone knows that.

 

[BrianWC]

my head hurts...

 

[MarkC]

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Originally posted by BrianWC:

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Originally posted by MarkC:

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Originally posted by BrianWC:

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Originally posted by Kestas:
Recently there's been discussion that oil and coal deposits have nothing to do with dinosaurs and old tropical forests, and that they are simply naturally occurring stratified geological minerals same as iron ore and copper ore.

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There aren't a whole lot of petroleum geologists that agree with that theory, though. It basically gets a lot of play whenever a declining field begins to produce a lot more than expected due to some unanticipated reason. I think there's been some discussion in the off topic forum.

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Diatoms.

http://www.priweb.org/ed/pgws/systems/energy_capture/capture.html

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I know MarkC.

I was referring to the Abiogenic theory...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin

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I know, and it's ****.

 

[MarkC]

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Originally posted by TallPaul:

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Originally posted by MarkC:
We have the bones.

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Bones only prove that dinosaurs existed, not when.

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Do I really need to educate you about radioisotope dating and pakeo-stratigraphy?
Funny, the great majority of folks who doubt science are those who don't understand it very well.
When do you think dinosaurs walked the planet?

 

[BrianWC]

no kidding! You can find a "Russian scientist" who will tell you anything.

 

[MarkC]

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Originally posted by moribundman:

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Best we all steer clear of R/S/P

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The "S" stands for science now?

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It would so appear.

 

[MarkC]

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Originally posted by BrianWC:
no kidding! You can find a "Russian scientist" who will tell you anything.

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You can also find a lot of people spouting off about things they know little about.

 

[BrianWC]

At least I'M an archaeologist. By default most of the unwashed masses therefore THINK I am a paleontologist and geologist.

 

[MarkC]

I wasn't talking about you.
My degree is geology and I suffered through many hours of paleontology along the way. And I don't regret it.

 

[dave1251]

What is the orginal point anyways?

 

[BrianWC]

I know, I just like to brag.

j/k

I wish I was a geologist...they seem to make more money these days. Alas, my college's geology program went under shortly after the 80's oil bust.

 

[BrianWC]

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Originally posted by dave1251:
What is the orginal point anyways?

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omeone thinking we needed reminding about the origins of various base stocks?