Difference between on Jiffy Lube sold filter and a Fram Ultra on a Ford 6.2l engine

[GON]

Changed the oil on a 2016 f350 with the 6.2l gas engine earlier this evening.

Jiffy Lube changed the oil last for the previous owner. This is the first oil change I have done on this truck since buying the truck last December. I have not used the truck except for test drives.

A bit surprised on the size difference between the jiffy lube filter on the Fram xg2.

 

[fantastic]

That is quite the size difference. I would assume that the Fram is bigger for the longer mileage runs & perhaps other filters for this model are smaller like the champ. Looks like it's getting great treatment with the Specialty oil & Fram Ultra.

 

[KCJeep]

Places like that are famous for multiple application tiny filters, all in the name of wringing every last penny of profit out of the sale.

Would be interesting to see it cut open.

 

[bullwinkle]

Super cheapo Iffy Lube, putting a jobber PH48 size in place of the PH2 it calls for! At least it should have been an Ecore!

 

[Hall]

I'll bet every high-volume oil change place will consolidate filters in every application they can and in order to do that, they have to go smaller for many applications.

 

[TeeCee]

In fram part numbers, the 2 has been consolidated for the more often used 10060, and the 16 to a 3614. My shop stopped stocking the 4386 and 7317 years ago.

 

[bullwinkle]

Weird thing is, the 10060 was hard to find for a while, & the XG2 wire backed Ultras were everywhere. If the XG2 fit my Express, I would use it on it in a second-but the notch it fits into isn’t big enough.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

service chimp

 

[mrsilv04]

service chump...

 

[tnt_motorsports]

You should try the Motorcraft filter @GON

Just my $0.02

 

[GON]

You should try the Motorcraft filter @GON

Just my $0.02

TNT, thanks, can I ask why the Motorcraft over the Fram Ultra? Also, I am going to change the oil on a 2019 F350 with the 6.7l diesel. The motocraft was out of stock for the 6.7l, so I picked up a Mobil 1 oil filter for the diesel. Any thoughts on using the Mobil 1 in place of the Motorcraft in the 6.7l diesel?

 

[blufeb95]

Any thoughts on using the Mobil 1 in place of the Motorcraft in the 6.7l diesel?

These days they're probably essentially the same filter with slightly different branding without the Motorcraft specific customizations but likely very similar if not identical media.

 

[tnt_motorsports]

TNT, thanks, can I ask why the Motorcraft over the Fram Ultra? Also, I am going to change the oil on a 2019 F350 with the 6.7l diesel. The motocraft was out of stock for the 6.7l, so I picked up a Mobil 1 oil filter for the diesel. Any thoughts on using the Mobil 1 in place of the Motorcraft in the 6.7l diesel?

I prefer OEM filters when I can get them. I use a Motorcraft FL-400 on my Deere LT150 and 2005 Jeep GC. I’ve cut several open and they are well made. I also find them competitively priced at WM compared to Fram and other non OEM makes.

I have been a huge M1 supporter and in the past used an M1 filter on my Cummins. After doing research and reading a lot I’m going to stick with Fleetguard. I think M1 has good products but like I said I’ve become an OEM kinda guy.

Just my $0.02

 

[53' Stude]

Places like that are famous for multiple application tiny filters, all in the name of wringing every last penny of profit out of the sale.

Would be interesting to see it cut open.

Yes, it would be. @GON, send me both filters please

 

[GON]

Yes, it would be. @GON, send me both filters please

53S,

RGR- will do. PM to follow.

 

[53' Stude]

service chimp

Nothing wrong with them. Same folks that make CHAMP make these. I’ve used thousands of E CORE filters at work with ZERO issues. SMH

 

[jeepman3071]

I wouldn't be too concerned. A lot of the 5.7L engines in Grand Cherokees, Ram trucks, and others went from using the PH2 sized filter to the ph10060 filter in later years. Same engine, same filter base. I'm sure this was done to consolidate parts inventory needed for dealers. Same reason the quick lubes do this, so one filter can fit multiple vehicles. I've seen Jeep 4.0Ls that had a PH3614 sized filter on them from a quick lube. About 2 sizes smaller than what is normally spec'd (PH16) but I doubt it causes any issues besides maybe decreasing the oil capacity slightly.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Nothing wrong with them. Same folks that make CHAMP make these. I’ve used thousands of E CORE filters at work with ZERO issues. SMH

It's undersized for the application. The correct size is much bigger, as shown in a picture in the OP

 

[53' Stude]

It's undersized for the application. The correct size is much bigger, as shown in a picture in the OP

So, prob same reason why I see f-250 with 6.2 gas engine with a PH 500 instead of correct FL-820S eh?

I’ve saw way worse that was not leaking or making problems.

 

[53' Stude]

Super cheapo Iffy Lube, putting a jobber PH48 size in place of the PH2 it calls for! At least it should have been an Ecore!

The service champ is a e core