Did Purolater Ever Fix Their Tearing Issues ?
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You really have to ask this?! Take a look at my filters CUT OPEN here in this section.
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Purolator gives me ABSOLUTELY NO CONGIDENCE, hence my use of FRAM tough guard, parts master, and FRAM ULTRA
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Purolator gives me ABSOLUTELY NO CONGIDENCE, hence my use of FRAM tough guard, parts master, and FRAM ULTRA
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Originally Posted By: zvm77us
Is the problem with just "purolorator" branded filters or with other filters that puro manafactures for other companies (ie: MANN (now partenered with puro, or Mopar filters mfr. by Puro)?
Most of the above, including Bosch, Mann, Mopar, and Motorcraft, rebox the same Purolator filters.
Manns with part numbers starting with ML are reboxed Classics. The real German Mann oil filters' part numbers start with W (spin-on) or HU (cartridge); the latter two do not tear.
Bosch Workshop (5-digit part number ending in WS) is a reboxed Classic. The Bosch four-digit filters (3xxx) are reboxed P1's.
The Motorcraft is very similar, but not identical, to P1. Some of these have torn.
Note that the Bosch D+ does NOT tear. In addition, the Purolator Synthetic doesn't tear. Bosch Long Life (L3xxx) is a reboxed Purolator Synthetic and doesn't tear.
Is the problem with just "purolorator" branded filters or with other filters that puro manafactures for other companies (ie: MANN (now partenered with puro, or Mopar filters mfr. by Puro)?
Most of the above, including Bosch, Mann, Mopar, and Motorcraft, rebox the same Purolator filters.
Manns with part numbers starting with ML are reboxed Classics. The real German Mann oil filters' part numbers start with W (spin-on) or HU (cartridge); the latter two do not tear.
Bosch Workshop (5-digit part number ending in WS) is a reboxed Classic. The Bosch four-digit filters (3xxx) are reboxed P1's.
The Motorcraft is very similar, but not identical, to P1. Some of these have torn.
Note that the Bosch D+ does NOT tear. In addition, the Purolator Synthetic doesn't tear. Bosch Long Life (L3xxx) is a reboxed Purolator Synthetic and doesn't tear.
Originally Posted By: zvm77us
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: zvm77us
Is the problem with just "purolorator" branded filters or with other filters that puro manafactures for other companies (ie: MANN (now partenered with puro, or Mopar filters mfr. by Puro)?
Look Here div>
wow, just wow
try not to confuse someone who made a google spreadsheet on the internet with actual scientific analysis. Its like that old lady who turned 116 and said she eats bacon for longevity. She is chuckling her way to the grave because she just slaughtered the thousands who believe her.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: zvm77us
Is the problem with just "purolorator" branded filters or with other filters that puro manafactures for other companies (ie: MANN (now partenered with puro, or Mopar filters mfr. by Puro)?
Look Here div>
wow, just wow
try not to confuse someone who made a google spreadsheet on the internet with actual scientific analysis. Its like that old lady who turned 116 and said she eats bacon for longevity. She is chuckling her way to the grave because she just slaughtered the thousands who believe her.
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
try not to confuse someone who made a google spreadsheet on the internet with actual scientific analysis. Its like that old lady who turned 116 and said she eats bacon for longevity. She is chuckling her way to the grave because she just slaughtered the thousands who believe her.
Agreed. That spreadsheet is only enough to tell us that there is a problem. Unless we can account for a large enough sample of filters used and determine how many have tears and how many don't, we can't determine how severe the problem is.
try not to confuse someone who made a google spreadsheet on the internet with actual scientific analysis. Its like that old lady who turned 116 and said she eats bacon for longevity. She is chuckling her way to the grave because she just slaughtered the thousands who believe her.
Agreed. That spreadsheet is only enough to tell us that there is a problem. Unless we can account for a large enough sample of filters used and determine how many have tears and how many don't, we can't determine how severe the problem is.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
the spreadsheet shows that someone knows how to use google docs and write stuff down. that is all it shows.
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
the spreadsheet shows that someone knows how to use google docs and write stuff down. that is all it shows.
Did you ever stop beating your wife?
Well Purolator is revamping their lineup with new media element material, and a lot of new paint and glitter. There is a reason for doing that, called reputation. It was going down the "drain."
It's all a lot of talking now, as soon as they start actually producing the new filters it will be a reset. It's a big red flag when a company essentially abandons all their old products suddenly like this. They want it over and behind without saying a word directly about it. Seems very obvious.
It's all a lot of talking now, as soon as they start actually producing the new filters it will be a reset. It's a big red flag when a company essentially abandons all their old products suddenly like this. They want it over and behind without saying a word directly about it. Seems very obvious.
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Well Purolator is revamping their lineup with new media element material, and a lot of new paint and glitter. There is a reason for doing that, called reputation. It was going down the "drain."
It's all a lot of talking now, as soon as they start actually producing the new filters it is a reset. It's a big red flag when a company essentially abandons all their old products suddenly like this. They want it over and behind without saying a word directly about it. Seems very obvious.
Pure speculation. Puro has changed their paint scheme several times previously. I notice the "Global Warming" hacks are now changing the brand to "Climate Change". What's that mean?
Well Purolator is revamping their lineup with new media element material, and a lot of new paint and glitter. There is a reason for doing that, called reputation. It was going down the "drain."
It's all a lot of talking now, as soon as they start actually producing the new filters it is a reset. It's a big red flag when a company essentially abandons all their old products suddenly like this. They want it over and behind without saying a word directly about it. Seems very obvious.
Pure speculation. Puro has changed their paint scheme several times previously. I notice the "Global Warming" hacks are now changing the brand to "Climate Change". What's that mean?
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Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Well Purolator is revamping their lineup with new media element material, and a lot of new paint and glitter. There is a reason for doing that, called reputation. It was going down the "drain."
It's all a lot of talking now, as soon as they start actually producing the new filters it will be a reset. It's a big red flag when a company essentially abandons all their old products suddenly like this. They want it over and behind without saying a word directly about it. Seems very obvious.
Absolute paid for shill hogwash. stop posting.
Well Purolator is revamping their lineup with new media element material, and a lot of new paint and glitter. There is a reason for doing that, called reputation. It was going down the "drain."
It's all a lot of talking now, as soon as they start actually producing the new filters it will be a reset. It's a big red flag when a company essentially abandons all their old products suddenly like this. They want it over and behind without saying a word directly about it. Seems very obvious.
Absolute paid for shill hogwash. stop posting.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
All the spreadsheet tells us is that "some purolator filters have been tearing." And that's enough that a lot of people will use other things to avoid worrying about it. But it doesn't tell us if it's 0.1% of the filters that are tearing or 10% (it lacks the necessary data to tell us that).
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
All the spreadsheet tells us is that "some purolator filters have been tearing." And that's enough that a lot of people will use other things to avoid worrying about it. But it doesn't tell us if it's 0.1% of the filters that are tearing or 10% (it lacks the necessary data to tell us that).
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Well Purolator is revamping their lineup with new media element material, and a lot of new paint and glitter. There is a reason for doing that, called reputation. It was going down the "drain."
It's all a lot of talking now, as soon as they start actually producing the new filters it is a reset. It's a big red flag when a company essentially abandons all their old products suddenly like this. They want it over and behind without saying a word directly about it. Seems very obvious.
Pure speculation. Puro has changed their paint scheme several times previously. I notice the "Global Warming" hacks are now changing the brand to "Climate Change". What's that mean?
Ask Frank Luntz
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Well Purolator is revamping their lineup with new media element material, and a lot of new paint and glitter. There is a reason for doing that, called reputation. It was going down the "drain."
It's all a lot of talking now, as soon as they start actually producing the new filters it is a reset. It's a big red flag when a company essentially abandons all their old products suddenly like this. They want it over and behind without saying a word directly about it. Seems very obvious.
Pure speculation. Puro has changed their paint scheme several times previously. I notice the "Global Warming" hacks are now changing the brand to "Climate Change". What's that mean?
Ask Frank Luntz
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Originally Posted By: rslifkin
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
All the spreadsheet tells us is that "some purolator filters have been tearing." And that's enough that a lot of people will use other things to avoid worrying about it. But it doesn't tell us if it's 0.1% of the filters that are tearing or 10% (it lacks the necessary data to tell us that).
Do we really need to question this? Members from across the nation posted tears on filters from many dates and models. Considering BITOG members who cut and post represent a small percentage of filter users in the United States, Id have to say the failure percentage was pretty substantial.
As I have said before, the majority of BITOG has moved away from these 3rd world quality filters. We still have a few members who are living in denial so they can be our guinea pigs. Funny thing though.. I haven't seen any posters who push Purolator actually posting their filters. One can only hope they are stretching their P1's beyond 3k.
Also if these new filters prove to be the bees knees, Ill definitely run them in the future, but first they have a reputation that needs rebuilt.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
All the spreadsheet tells us is that "some purolator filters have been tearing." And that's enough that a lot of people will use other things to avoid worrying about it. But it doesn't tell us if it's 0.1% of the filters that are tearing or 10% (it lacks the necessary data to tell us that).
Do we really need to question this? Members from across the nation posted tears on filters from many dates and models. Considering BITOG members who cut and post represent a small percentage of filter users in the United States, Id have to say the failure percentage was pretty substantial.
As I have said before, the majority of BITOG has moved away from these 3rd world quality filters. We still have a few members who are living in denial so they can be our guinea pigs. Funny thing though.. I haven't seen any posters who push Purolator actually posting their filters. One can only hope they are stretching their P1's beyond 3k.
Also if these new filters prove to be the bees knees, Ill definitely run them in the future, but first they have a reputation that needs rebuilt.
Originally Posted By: rslifkin
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
All the spreadsheet tells us is that "some purolator filters have been tearing." And that's enough that a lot of people will use other things to avoid worrying about it. But it doesn't tell us if it's 0.1% of the filters that are tearing or 10% (it lacks the necessary data to tell us that).
That's true, but since very few filters are cut open, it's impossible to show a percentage of the total number. The number of torn out of the total has to be more than only 10% given the random sampling and high occurrence. That's why they are resetting the whole line with new wrappers and new parts inside.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
All the spreadsheet tells us is that "some purolator filters have been tearing." And that's enough that a lot of people will use other things to avoid worrying about it. But it doesn't tell us if it's 0.1% of the filters that are tearing or 10% (it lacks the necessary data to tell us that).
That's true, but since very few filters are cut open, it's impossible to show a percentage of the total number. The number of torn out of the total has to be more than only 10% given the random sampling and high occurrence. That's why they are resetting the whole line with new wrappers and new parts inside.
Well unknowingly about the tearing rumors, I put a PureOne 14612 on my Mazda2 at last oil change. It had a normal white Purolator filter before that. Unfortunately I tossed the old filter so could not cut open, BUT my UOA for previous change had really low wear metals so I'm pretty confident there were no problems. A UOA will be done for the next sample too and filter will be cut open for you guys. It is the normal old yellow grippy type.
UOA here:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb..._Pl#Post3901463
UOA here:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb..._Pl#Post3901463
Originally Posted By: rslifkin
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
All the spreadsheet tells us is that "some purolator filters have been tearing." And that's enough that a lot of people will use other things to avoid worrying about it. But it doesn't tell us if it's 0.1% of the filters that are tearing or 10% (it lacks the necessary data to tell us that).
Doesn't take much rocket science to realize that a high number of failures reported from a small sample group indicated a pretty prevalent problem.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The spreadsheet shows it's severe enough for most here to use something else. And the spreadsheet is missing about 20~25 more entries since it was last updated.
All the spreadsheet tells us is that "some purolator filters have been tearing." And that's enough that a lot of people will use other things to avoid worrying about it. But it doesn't tell us if it's 0.1% of the filters that are tearing or 10% (it lacks the necessary data to tell us that).
Doesn't take much rocket science to realize that a high number of failures reported from a small sample group indicated a pretty prevalent problem.
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