did a de-carbonization yesterday (with seafoam)

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I had a day off yesterday, the weather was being it`s usual learning disabled self (meaning not a nice May day). Anyhow, I got a little bored so I went out to the garage to see if their was anything I could do to my RX. Didnt need an oil change,I just rotated my tires, so cross that one off the list. Hmmmmm, I konw!
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I`ll do a Seafoam de-carbonization! So I pop the hood, pull the pcv valve (yes the motor was already warm) grab my trusty can of Seafoam, and start the car to begin the process.

Everything went as it should, I let it suck in about a 1/4 to almost 1/2 of the can, (I have drive by wire) so I went back in to up the throttle some. As soon as I hit the gas, it made this KNOCK sound, like the knock sensors were going off real bad! So I tried to turn it off......Well, it kept on running, You know, the old pre ignition thing? So I turned the key back to on, continued running as usual. I thought to my self, man this thing must be carboned up bad! turn key off,,,same thing, kept going, put it in drive, I thought to myself you cant keep on going now! Three times This happened until it finally, or should say, RELUCTANTLY slowed to a HALT! All I can think of is it must have had some real carbon issues going on.

Anyway, I take it out for a spin, people are looking at me like Hey,that Lexus just blew an engine! Smoke out the back like no tomorrow. I go up on 33 South, run the [censored] out of it, and it finally settles down. Mean while the knock sound I heard before must have been the good ole knock sensor`s pounding down the ignition timing as low as it could make it because this thing was running like [censored]! After driving around for a little while, it slowly started to get back to it`s normal self. Keep in mind, I did this to my 01 RX too, and although it set off the cel for cylinder miss fire, it never pre ignitioned like this one did. I was really surprised about that. So far, it seems to be running very well now. I plugged in my scanner, no pending codes or anything.

The only reason I did this is because I remember how it helped my other one gain a little more throttle response. And because my fuel millage has been down lately, last year I was getting 19mpg`s, and lately only getting 17mpg`s Runs fine, no codes, air filter is good, must just be this wonderful fuel we have these day`s. I just thought I would share this with you guy`s,as I value your idea`s/comment`s on the matter.

Thank`s
Ryan
 
It was so much easier to de-carbon back in the day,you could use water even ,and effective.You'd have the throttle arm right there so you could run it up and blow it out.Maybe you can have a helper run the gas pedal and keep an eye on rpm,temp and such next time.
 
My seafoaming last month wasnt as eventful as yours but i seafoamed my prizm. THrottle response for the first 30 or so miles was AMAZING, i mean seriously new car type of stuff, then all of a sudden engine starts knocking like crazy, chugging along, throttle response is almost non-existant, CEL shows multiple misfires. I replace the spark plugs, PCV valve was all gummed up, changed the oil. Car is running much better now, better than it has in years. Seafoam did scare the daylights out of me though.
 
I hear ya, the ONLY thing going through my mind was...please God, I hope I didnt screw this thing up! My wife will kill me! I have too many payments left on this thing!
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She say`s I get into trouble when I`m left alone too long. Maybe She`s right.
 
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My own observations with Seafoam.
I tried it on a Northstar 4.6 which is notorious for carbon knocking when cold.The thing smoked like crazy from the exhaust being filled with pale oil but the carbon knock was still present the next AM,not even a little better.

Seafoam did nothing at all only lots of smoke.
I removed the plugs and soaked the pistons overnight with GM Top Engine Cleaner and the knock was totaly gone.

IMO Seafoam is a waste of time and money.
Getting my flame suit on.
 
As someone who is a skeptic, please tell me if Seafoam has any benefit for a car that is NOT used solely for very short trips. And even then, a spirited and high speed drive on the highway should clean up the gunk.
 
An engine can definitely run on just seafoam. I've had that run-on effect happen twice. When I seafoamed my mom's 4.0 Jeep, it ran for about 4 - 5 seconds after I flipped the key off. My sister's 94 Camry 2.2 ran for a good 10 seconds after I shut it off.

CivicFan - most engines that get a good highway run every now and then won't be carboned up enough to be worth seafoaming. However, trying it doesn't hurt. Worst case, it doesn't improve anything.

Trav - Some engines seem to respond better to seafoam than others. My old 2.0 Hyundai barely noticed a difference, and barely smoked (even though it was a bit carboned). Same story with an old Onan generator. However, mom's Jeep, and especially my sister's Camry ran worlds better afterwards.

I've never had an engine foul spark plugs after seafoaming, but I usually take it out and flog the heck out of it as soon as it's running well enough after restart, which probably burns the [censored] off the plugs.
 
Good way to cost yourself a few thousand $$$ in repair in either catalysed exhaust, HG or rods. I have H2O2 and ethanol in the past with good results. Would prefer you do a d'Carbon a week B4 an OCI.
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Good way to cost yourself a few thousand $$$ in repair in either catalysed exhaust, HG or rods. I have H2O2 and ethanol in the past with good results. Would prefer you do a d'Carbon a week B4 an OCI.




Well it`s running pretty good, so I guess no harm done.
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Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Seafoam down the PCV is silly and amateurish, to me.
Fine, you got smoke out the back. You did something.



The only thing that concerned me was the run on. I really dont like that sound at all.
 
Originally Posted By: Carbon
How does a car with electronic fuel injection keep running with the key off?



My thought was from something glowing in the combustion chamber i.e carbon. They used to call this Dieseling in the older day`s. Or their was too much unburned Seafoam in the combustion chamber. What ever was doing it, it`s not a pretty sound, believe me.
 
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Exactly. It's running on unburned Seafoam being ignited by something hot in the chamber (probably carbon). I've noticed that only the more carboned up engine's I've done, which saw the most benefit, had the run-on. Those with little effect from the Seafoam didn't run on. All but 1 engine was EFI, and the carbed one was one that didn't run on.

The chances of doing damage, other than maybe blowing some carbon [censored] into a spark plug or O2 sensor, are pretty minimal, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. I've also done the water de-carboning once on my Jeep, and it worked similarly to Seafoam, albeit without the giant smoke cloud.
 
water method works nicely if you don't have dbw throttle. frankly I think any of these methods are passé with dbw as you just can't saturate the mix enough. I think the corporate cleaners and in-tank cleaners will do as good of a job, if you can't open it to 50% wot while pouring something down the hole....

water used to blow all kinds of mung and goo and black cräp of my 2bbl v8....

M
 
During and at least after wards (for a while) doing the Seafoam, car demonstratively runs poorly. My problem is when it starts running better, I no longer have the reference of pre Seafoam. Unless the car was running bad initially, it will be very difficult to gauge the real improvement.

I mean you know that it does feel great when one stops banging his head against the wall repeatedly :- )

- Vikas
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
My own observations with Seafoam.
I tried it on a Northstar 4.6 which is notorious for carbon knocking when cold.The thing smoked like crazy from the exhaust being filled with pale oil but the carbon knock was still present the next AM,not even a little better.

Seafoam did nothing at all only lots of smoke.
I removed the plugs and soaked the pistons overnight with GM Top Engine Cleaner and the knock was totaly gone.

IMO Seafoam is a waste of time and money.
Getting my flame suit on.


I agree. I prefer something more like the GM product you mentioned, the Mopar offering, or Amsoil. I don't trust Sea Foam in the method described in this thread. I'd prefer to try their spray can version first. Still, the preference is a SOAK of carbon. Getting a smoke show doesn't in of itself mean anything. Seeing what you 'think' is going on doesn't mean it is happening just that way. It could just be the chemical burning off and no real lasting help was performed.
 
You guy`s think my oil will be okay? or should I change it? The Seafoam should just add a little more cleaning if nothing else.
 
I have always heard that your should change your oil after sea foam. Most people i know tend to do it right before they change the oil.
 
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