DAILY Oil Changes

[TC]

OK, I'll have fun with this one and post it as a 100% fact-based question...

FUN QUIZ
While camping in the forest this week, I perused through my old 2004 Range Rover's owners manual for entertainment. Under the engine oil service section it mentions the possibility of needing DAILY oil changes, based on driving environment and vehicle use.

TRUE or FALSE?

I answer a few days from now following thread jibber-jabber...

 

[WobblyElvis]

Oil is cheap, engines are not.
I look at it as cheap insurance.

 

[TC]

Except wouldn't a daily oil change cost at least $2,000 each month?

 

[cptbarkey]

If you drive 250 miles per hour in 1 day you went 6000 miles, so you'd be due for a change. The manual is correct.

 

[RDY4WAR]

The only engines that need to change oil every day is NHRA Top Fuel, up to 4x on race day. The total run time on the oil is <2 minutes.

 

[Cujet]

Unrelated to requirements, but still a daily oil change. I found it far cheaper to have a Manhattan garage perform an oil change, than it was to park in NYC. So each day that I'd visit, I'd have an oil change performed. Eventually, the mechanic said in a heavy Italian accent, Mr. Cujet, your oil, it's a clean now. That Ford 200 cubic inch inline six engine lasted a very long time, with well over 255,000 miles of abuse before I gave the car away. It soldiered on from there for quite some time too!

This was the exact model and color of the 1967 Mustang. Not quite gold, and not quite green.

 

[Starving Electrician]

Unrelated to requirements, but still a daily oil change. I found it far cheaper to have a Manhattan garage perform an oil change, than it was to park in NYC. So each day that I'd visit, I'd have an oil change performed. Eventually, the mechanic said in a heavy Italian accent, Mr. Cujet, your oil, it's a clean now. That Ford 200 cubic inch inline six engine lasted a very long time, with well over 255,000 miles of abuse before I gave the car away. It soldiered on from there for quite some time too!

This was the exact model and color of the 1967 Mustang. Not quite gold, and not quite green.

Haha nice way to "beat" the system. Although I wonder if they would have allowed you to just give them 2/3rds of the money and just park the car there

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

LOL did they suggest a daily Stealership oil change?

 

[oldcodger]

Had an uncle who went to the opposite extreme. He would tell me "Boy, oil don't wear out". He never changed the oil in anything he owned.

 

[edyvw]

OK, I'll have fun with this one and post it as a 100% fact-based question...

FUN QUIZ
While camping in the forest this week, I perused through my old 2004 Range Rover's owners manual for entertainment. Under the engine oil service section it mentions the possibility of needing DAILY oil changes, based on driving environment and vehicle use.

TRUE or FALSE?

I answer a few days from now following thread jibber-jabber...

Safaris with multiple drivers, bad gas, lots of dust. I think that is what they had in mind.

 

[TC]

Ha! You could have probably eaten off the head of that Ford engine. And yeah, I suppose a 250 MPH car would need near-daily oil changes if driven constantly.

>>>Has anyone ever seen or heard of a car/truck owner's manual that even mentions the notion of DAILY oil changes under extreme conditions?<<<

I tend to laugh at the concept, and can't even conceive of how a Sahara sandstorm would necessarily require it. How much oil/air/fuel filter "failure" could even result in that?

 

[TC]

Safaris with multiple drivers, bad gas, lots of dust. I think that is what they had in mind.

Yeah, that sounds like a Level 10 scenario of near-abuse that could trigger such EXTREME service, although I hear the knob now actually goes to 11.

 

[JRay’07]

The only situation that could justify such a requirement would be extremely deep river crossings where the engine is ingesting some water. Or dirt bypassing the air filter in a desert driving scenario.

 

[TC]

OK, guess I'll skip the "quiz" part and just cut to the chase...straight from da horsie's Cockney mouth (but hopefully with better teeth than Austin Powers)...

2004 Range Rover Owner's Manual
"Engine Oil" Section
4.4L, 9.6 qt sump, 15,000 Mile Oil Service

"NOTE: Under severe operating conditions (i.e. regular use in muddy terrain or dusty conditions), the engine oil must be changed more frequently, even to the extent of DAILY change. Consult your Land Rover retailer for guidance."

Can't say I've ever heard that before. But as edyvw mentioned, I suppose a desert safari/race scenario could pull the trigger, something Land Rover knows a thing or two about.

 

[TC]

The only situation that could justify such a requirement would be extremely deep river crossings where the engine is ingesting some water. Or dirt bypassing the air filter in a desert driving scenario.

Yeah, either could do the trick.

I'm also impressed with the thorough Brits in that the owner's manual (not a workshop manual, mind you) also includes instructions on how to:

-Change the oil and filter
-Change the air filter
-Change the sparkplugs

 

[Number_35]

Unrelated to requirements, but still a daily oil change. I found it far cheaper to have a Manhattan garage perform an oil change, than it was to park in NYC. So each day that I'd visit, I'd have an oil change performed. Eventually, the mechanic said in a heavy Italian accent, Mr. Cujet, your oil, it's a clean now. That Ford 200 cubic inch inline six engine lasted a very long time, with well over 255,000 miles of abuse before I gave the car away. It soldiered on from there for quite some time too!

This was the exact model and color of the 1967 Mustang. Not quite gold, and not quite green.

How often was this? What was the typical mileage on the oil at each change?

 

[PF52]

Had an uncle who went to the opposite extreme. He would tell me "Boy, oil don't wear out". He never changed the oil in anything he owned.

Sounds just like my dad (maybe we are cousins?). He felt that a car that needed periodic work (IE, normal maintenance) was a car that was unreliable. To him regular oil changes were just a scam to pad the profits of the dealer/shop.

 

[Cujet]

How often was this? What was the typical mileage on the oil at each change?

It was every day for over a week, then a few times per week. Commute was about 80 miles round trip.

If I remember correctly, the oil change was $16 and parking was $45.

 

[Jetronic]

OK, guess I'll skip the "quiz" part and just cut to the chase...straight from da horsie's Cockney mouth (but hopefully with better teeth than Austin Powers)...

2004 Range Rover Owner's Manual
"Engine Oil" Section
4.4L, 9.6 qt sump, 15,000 Mile Oil Service

"NOTE: Under severe operating conditions (i.e. regular use in muddy terrain or dusty conditions), the engine oil must be changed more frequently, even to the extent of DAILY change. Consult your Land Rover retailer for guidance."

Can't say I've ever heard that before. But as edyvw mentioned, I suppose a desert safari/race scenario could pull the trigger, something Land Rover knows a thing or two about.

Use your own judgement. If I'm fjording a flood that might have submerged breathers (transmission or axles) I'm changing the oil ASAP. The engine should be fine, unless the filter got wet But then there's dust....

 

[Jetronic]

It was every day for over a week, then a few times per week. Commute was about 80 miles round trip.

If I remember correctly, the oil change was $16 and parking was $45.

Weren't you worried they scammed you LOL. God help you if you went 160 miles on an oil change....