I've never even heard of Zayre, it was probably closing around the time I was born (1987). Interesting history lesson!
Cut open a 1986 Fram 3614
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fram sux
Zayre was like Kmart, just without the fine diner and blue lights.
Orange is a good colour for targets.......about all Fram filters are good for!
Originally Posted By: mikeg5
fram sux
No it doesn't. They are no worse than any other entry-level oil filter.
fram sux
No it doesn't. They are no worse than any other entry-level oil filter.
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Yes they are. They cost too much. That's a bad thing. Fram=bad thing = Fram=sux.
QED - Fram sux.
My gosh, Critic
Don't you have any [censored] feelings about that? (name that movie #)
QED - Fram sux.
My gosh, Critic
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Yes they are. They cost too much. That's a bad thing. Fram=bad thing = Fram=sux.
QED - Fram sux.
My gosh, Critic
Don't you have any [censored] feelings about that? (name that movie #)
They cost just as much as any other name brand entry-level filter. Have you priced out a Purolator Premium Plus filter recently?
I still do not buy the argument that Fram Extra Guards are significantly worse in performance compared to its competitors within the same class.
Yes they are. They cost too much. That's a bad thing. Fram=bad thing = Fram=sux.
QED - Fram sux.
My gosh, Critic
They cost just as much as any other name brand entry-level filter. Have you priced out a Purolator Premium Plus filter recently?
I still do not buy the argument that Fram Extra Guards are significantly worse in performance compared to its competitors within the same class.
I've never heard of "Zayre."
When I saw that pic I initially thought that meant made or purchased in Zaire...of all places. Fram could have just been a couple decades ahead of the outsourcing wave.
When I saw that pic I initially thought that meant made or purchased in Zaire...of all places. Fram could have just been a couple decades ahead of the outsourcing wave.
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Funny that apparently and 80s FRAM is higher quality than the equivalent new filter today.
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Ah PH3614, that reminds me of my Turbo Dodge days!
Originally Posted By: ToyotaNSaturn
Founded 1958, closed 1989
Amazing, Zayre! I haven't expended one synaptic pulse worth of mental energy thinking of that store in decades!!! OK, I'm veering off topic, but here's my most "memorable" Zayre memory (which has zero to do with them, which might help explain why they're gone...). Anyway, back around 1972 (or so), we were flying from Boston to London on BOAC (Brit Overseas Airway Corp, the International half of what later became British Airways). The aircraft was the amazing Vickers VC-10. Vickers built this plane to service the "Empire routes" which consisted largely of dangerously small African and Asian airports with very short runways. This plane looks like a 4-engined whale-tailed DC-9 on steroids. Had it been built and marketed correctly, it might well have eclipsed the Boeing 707. But that was not to be...
So, what the heck does this have to do with Zayre?
We took off from Boston Logan well after dark. I had a "coveted" (for an 11-12 year old) window seat. I will never forget the mental image of the big, flashing red Zayre sign, seemingly sideways, since we were climbing seemingly vertically. No B-707 ever produced that experience. The VC-10 could carry about as many pax, AND safely blast its way off a 4000 ft runway.
Wow, Zayre and the VC-10. Thanks for the quick trip down distant Memory Lane...
Founded 1958, closed 1989
Amazing, Zayre! I haven't expended one synaptic pulse worth of mental energy thinking of that store in decades!!! OK, I'm veering off topic, but here's my most "memorable" Zayre memory (which has zero to do with them, which might help explain why they're gone...). Anyway, back around 1972 (or so), we were flying from Boston to London on BOAC (Brit Overseas Airway Corp, the International half of what later became British Airways). The aircraft was the amazing Vickers VC-10. Vickers built this plane to service the "Empire routes" which consisted largely of dangerously small African and Asian airports with very short runways. This plane looks like a 4-engined whale-tailed DC-9 on steroids. Had it been built and marketed correctly, it might well have eclipsed the Boeing 707. But that was not to be...
So, what the heck does this have to do with Zayre?
We took off from Boston Logan well after dark. I had a "coveted" (for an 11-12 year old) window seat. I will never forget the mental image of the big, flashing red Zayre sign, seemingly sideways, since we were climbing seemingly vertically. No B-707 ever produced that experience. The VC-10 could carry about as many pax, AND safely blast its way off a 4000 ft runway.
Wow, Zayre and the VC-10. Thanks for the quick trip down distant Memory Lane...
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Yes they are. They cost too much. That's a bad thing. Fram=bad thing = Fram=sux.
QED - Fram sux.
My gosh, Critic
Don't you have any [censored] feelings about that? (name that movie #)
They cost just as much as any other name brand entry-level filter. Have you priced out a Purolator Premium Plus filter recently?
I still do not buy the argument that Fram Extra Guards are significantly worse in performance compared to its competitors within the same class.
Who cares about performance, the insides don't look good.
Note, the Pronto I bought last year had a nice cross reference on it. Unfortunately, it think it is 2 generations obosolete.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Yes they are. They cost too much. That's a bad thing. Fram=bad thing = Fram=sux.
QED - Fram sux.
My gosh, Critic
They cost just as much as any other name brand entry-level filter. Have you priced out a Purolator Premium Plus filter recently?
I still do not buy the argument that Fram Extra Guards are significantly worse in performance compared to its competitors within the same class.
Who cares about performance, the insides don't look good.
Note, the Pronto I bought last year had a nice cross reference on it. Unfortunately, it think it is 2 generations obosolete.
yes i am sure that FRAM had sooo many oil filter related problems back then just like they do now....
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
No B-707 ever produced that experience. The VC-10 could carry about as many pax, AND safely blast its way off a 4000 ft runway.
I'd REALLY hate to drive this off topic, but catch a ride in a 752 out of SAN. That's another great vertical ride!
No B-707 ever produced that experience. The VC-10 could carry about as many pax, AND safely blast its way off a 4000 ft runway.
I'd REALLY hate to drive this off topic, but catch a ride in a 752 out of SAN. That's another great vertical ride!
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Yes they are. They cost too much. That's a bad thing. Fram=bad thing = Fram=sux.
QED - Fram sux.
My gosh, Critic
Don't you have any [censored] feelings about that? (name that movie #)
They cost just as much as any other name brand entry-level filter. Have you priced out a Purolator Premium Plus filter recently?
I still do not buy the argument that Fram Extra Guards are significantly worse in performance compared to its competitors within the same class.
+1 to this. The anti-Fram mentality on this site is embarassing for a site that used to pride itself on debating facts. Frams perfom just as well as any other entry-level filter.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Yes they are. They cost too much. That's a bad thing. Fram=bad thing = Fram=sux.
QED - Fram sux.
My gosh, Critic
They cost just as much as any other name brand entry-level filter. Have you priced out a Purolator Premium Plus filter recently?
I still do not buy the argument that Fram Extra Guards are significantly worse in performance compared to its competitors within the same class.
+1 to this. The anti-Fram mentality on this site is embarassing for a site that used to pride itself on debating facts. Frams perfom just as well as any other entry-level filter.
Originally Posted By: Bret Chase
Originally posted by eljefino:
PS, Zayre, remember them? They turned into Ames which of course recently went bankrupt. And $3.49 for a filter in 1988-- what was minimum wage then, $3.20? This thing'd be a six dollar filter today. And I paid six cents.
I remember them...
a quick search found this rather interesting site http://www.geocities.com/zayre88/
-Bret
I remember Zayre too. Bought my ramps from the Orlando store for $15 when it was going out of business. Best $15 I ever spent.
Originally posted by eljefino:
PS, Zayre, remember them? They turned into Ames which of course recently went bankrupt. And $3.49 for a filter in 1988-- what was minimum wage then, $3.20? This thing'd be a six dollar filter today. And I paid six cents.
I remember them...
a quick search found this rather interesting site http://www.geocities.com/zayre88/
-Bret
I remember Zayre too. Bought my ramps from the Orlando store for $15 when it was going out of business. Best $15 I ever spent.
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