Cost aside.....

[dkryan]

kgcobra320:

To answer your second question, no, GC does not degrade over time, even the "M02" and M03" oil. If that were the case, my Infiniti's 3.0L V6 is in a world of hurt, 'cause that's what's in there now: a mix of the "02" and "03."

For the money, green GC is the way to go, if you can find it!

 

[kgcobra320]

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Having soundly trounced more than one '99 SVT Cobra with my '99 SAAB 9-3, I can tell you conclusively that it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference in the world.

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Must be a highly modified 9-3 or else I would have to call B$ on this one

With the stock gears (3:27) and stock motor, 320hp/320tq, its an animal on the highway(mines not stock BTW). It gets to 150mph quite quickly and with the limiter off that goes to 160mph. From a dig you have no prayer and from a roll it would be closer but at that point it's more a matter of who is the bigger idiot!

BTW my last car was an '00 Viggen, black on black.

Very fast car but not nearly as fast as the Cobra.

 

[TomJones76]

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Originally posted by kgcobra320:
Yeah I know it's kind of a tough question with a lot of variables. It seems though that most on this site are fairly cost conscietious. Don't get me wrong I'm not looking to throw money out the window, it's more out of curiosity. Just wondering if there is something out there that really outperforms everything else but is cost prohibitive. Are we really getting the cutting edge of lubrication technology with M1, GC, RL...etc...?????

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No, there is no oil that blows all the others out of the water in all (or even most) categories.
I will note that there is one oil that is ridiculously more expensive than all others.
Do a google search for Synlube. They have an oil they claim is a lifetime fill for most any car, and they charge $32/qt.

 

[Schmoe]

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Originally posted by bulwnkl:
Having soundly trounced more than one '99 SVT Cobra with my '99 SAAB 9-3, I can tell you conclusively that it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference in the world.

OBTW: I used Red Line in that SAAB.

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You must have been racing grandma or some one who obviously doesn't know how to use that car to its fullest extent. A Saab dusting a Cobra....

 

[kgcobra320]

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No, there is no oil that blows all the others out of the water in all (or even most) categories.
I will note that there is one oil that is ridiculously more expensive than all others.
Do a google search for Synlube. They have an oil they claim is a lifetime fill for most any car, and they charge $32/qt.

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Wow!! $32/qt.....does it work???

Like I said eariler, my curiosity is more from the perspective of how close over the counter oil is to the latest in oil technology. A lot of times, the cutting edge technology is an order of magnitude above the current but is cost prohibitive for the masses. Usually takes a while to streamline the manufacturing processes and such to make it a viable alternative.

 

[Raven18940]

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Originally posted by Schmoe:

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Originally posted by bulwnkl:
Having soundly trounced more than one '99 SVT Cobra with my '99 SAAB 9-3, I can tell you conclusively that it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference in the world.

OBTW: I used Red Line in that SAAB.

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You must have been racing grandma or some one who obviously doesn't know how to use that car to its fullest extent. A Saab dusting a Cobra....

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Do not underestimate a SAAB, or you too will fall victum.

 

[kgcobra320]

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Do not underestimate a SAAB, or you too will fall victum.

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I personally owned the fastest one that they have made so far (Viggen).....I am not afraid

 

[memo]

Mobil 1 15w50. It might not be the best on the planet, but it should be good enough for a Cobra. You can get it at wally world cheap too. Run to napa for a wix filter, or a mobil 1.

 

[Schmoe]

Soooooooooo, your telling me that your Saaaaab can take a 500 plus horse, positrac rear end, supercharged Cobra......woooooweeeeee, I'd like to see that.

 

[bulwnkl]

I was just giving you a hard time, though my 9-3 and I did defeat more than one Cobra and a Viggen or two. It wasn't quite stock, as you might imagine.

Remember how Ford was overstating their hp ratings, especially the higher-performance model(s)? That may have been a factor.

Nevertheless, if you're looking for ultimate protection and want to spend the money, buy Red Line. You may not need it for anything but your mind, but you'll feel better!

 

[TomJones76]

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Originally posted by kgcobra320:

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No, there is no oil that blows all the others out of the water in all (or even most) categories.
I will note that there is one oil that is ridiculously more expensive than all others.
Do a google search for Synlube. They have an oil they claim is a lifetime fill for most any car, and they charge $32/qt.

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Wow!! $32/qt.....does it work???

SNIP

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We've never seen documentation of it failing in application.
That doesn't mean it's never happenned.
The one UOA I think I saw, it had drifted somewhat in viscosity from base, but nothing catastrophic, and the guy's engine was doing fine.
There was a thread on it here:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000155

Fascinating stuff, but.... you know... geez. It'd take all the fun out of this board if I used it....

 

[kgcobra320]

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Remember how Ford was overstating their hp ratings, especially the higher-performance model(s)? That may have been a factor.

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Ummm that was only in 1999. They changed the exhaust for lower noise emmissions and failed to account for intake runner polishing right before production. There was a recall and all were fixed with a new catback and extrude-honed or acid dipped intakes.

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Nevertheless, if you're looking for ultimate protection and want to spend the money, buy Red Line. You may not need it for anything but your mind, but you'll feel better!

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I could be wrong but in my brief reading in this web site it seemed to me that GC and M1 had better performance numbers or maybe just a bigger following???

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Fascinating stuff, but.... you know... geez. It'd take all the fun out of this board if I used it....

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Yes it is interesting stuff.....I just wish that the information was more conclusive.....I guess that there is just too many variables....

Kevin

 

[rainman]

Originally posted by bulwnkl:
[QB] Having soundly trounced more than one '99 SVT Cobra with my '99 SAAB 9-3, I can tell you conclusively that it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference in the world.

Forgive me for snickering... I just can't help myself. Thanks for the comic relief! In the first place, this thread wasn't started so you could brag about how fast your Saab is. As if Saabs are revered as drag strip kings. Secondly, you state "more than one '99 SVT Cobra". So, you're telling us you go trolling for only one kind of car to street race? And you've found several? Or is this just one of your many conquests? Sounds like pasture pudding to me...

 

[BrianWC]

From a standstill I'd never race a Cobra. The NG900/9-3 excelled from a roll, though. I can't say a thing about a Cobra but I can affirm seriously embarassing stock GTs with just an MBC . But from a standstill I always struggled to stay in front of Corollas!

 

[Rodbuckler]

The '99 SVT Cobra is a 5W-20 engine, isn't it? Best protection, not to mention performance, will come from a good 20 weight oil. That engine will blow the filter case into the weeds with M1 15W-50 EP in the crankcase.

 

[Raven18940]

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Originally posted by rainman:
Forgive me for snickering... I just can't help myself. Thanks for the comic relief! In the first place, this thread wasn't started so you could brag about how fast your Saab is. As if Saabs are revered as drag strip kings. Secondly, you state "more than one '99 SVT Cobra". So, you're telling us you go trolling for only one kind of car to street race? And you've found several? Or is this just one of your many conquests? Sounds like pasture pudding to me...

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Nah sayers.

I don't know if I could beat a cobra, never raced one, but I guarantee my aero would keep with it a lot better than you're giving it credit for.

Chew on this, my car came from the factory with a supposed 230 bhp. However when it was measured on a dyno it produced 235...at the wheels...in overdrive. So just slightly underrated. I also have a stage 3 ecu that'll I'll be putting in soon, then I'll go cobra hunting.

Who really cares though, we all appreciate fast cars here and that's what really matters.

 

[kgcobra320]

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The '99 SVT Cobra is a 5W-20 engine, isn't it? Best protection, not to mention performance, will come from a good 20 weight oil. That engine will blow the filter case into the weeds with M1 15W-50 EP in the crankcase.

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No, factory weight oil is 5w30 and I'm running M1 5w30 EP. I'm not worried about my filter at all though, it's a Canton Mecca. Extremely high burst rating, no bypass at all and filters all of the oil, all of the time. I love it so far!!!

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Nah sayers. I don't know if I could beat a cobra, never raced one, but I guarantee my aero would keep with it a lot better than you're giving it credit for. Chew on this, my car came from the factory with a supposed 230 bhp. However when it was measured on a dyno it produced 235...at the wheels...in overdrive. So just slightly underrated. I also have a stage 3 ecu that'll I'll be putting in soon, then I'll go cobra hunting.

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Not to keep this going as I know that you're just razzing me but you're about 75rwhp shy of my numbers

And like I've said a few times now I owned a Viggen and I'm completly aware how they preform. BTW, your Aero is the squishy suspension/luxury version of the real race car, the Viggen.

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Who really cares though, we all appreciate fast cars here and that's what really matters.

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You started it

 

[Raven18940]

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Originally posted by kgcobra320:
Not to keep this going as I know that you're just razzing me but you're about 75rwhp shy of my numbers

And like I've said a few times now I owned a Viggen and I'm completly aware how they preform. BTW, your Aero is the squishy suspension/luxury version of the real race car, the Viggen.

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The race car with a solid rear axel? My aero has eibach springs, bilstein shocks, and a factory fully independent rear suspension. You best be fearing it in the corners.

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Originally posted by kgcobra320:
You started it

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Not me, just fighting the saab haters. You have to admit that these cars go a lot faster than the numbers seem to say.

Ilove that burnout smiley.

 

[kgcobra320]

I have to give you credit, you are relentless, but for some reason you fail to acknowlege that I have owned Saabs, 4 of them to be exact. I'm not a Saab hater by any means they are good cars and yes some of them are fast.

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The race car with a solid rear axel? My aero has eibach springs, bilstein shocks, and a factory fully independent rear suspension. You best be fearing it in the corners.

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My point exactly!!! you had to change out the factory stuff just to get it to handle right. Now you're saying the Viggen is a slug???

Oh, I guess you're the only one with a fast Saab.

With the suspension mods in my Ford you will be sniffing Cobra exhaust after the first corner and wondering if your turbo has failed after the first straight

C'mon, get real,there is always a faster car out there than yours. It's important to know where you stand in the line up and in this case it's a few cars behind me.

Oh, and you were the first to start with the mine is faster than yours crap with this statement:

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Having soundly trounced more than one '99 SVT Cobra with my '99 SAAB 9-3, I can tell you conclusively that it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference in the world.

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Any more of this is a waste of time

...and I will participate no more.

 

[toocrazy2yoo]

Well, the fastest vehicle, as always, is

A BIKE!!!

When your power-to-weight ratios are hitting 3 pounds to the horsie, gimme a call...

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