Corruption is everywhere!

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Originally Posted By: PZR2874
^Can your wife explain why these companies "wine and dine" Dr's offices on a daily basis ?

Wife worked for a Dr's office for quite some time and 4 times a week RX companies/sales would bring the office lunch... Guess what... tax write off.


There is more to that. The sales reps will keep track how many prescriptions are written by each doc for their brand meds and confront them if the numbers go down. Docs don't want to upset their friendly reps because they want the free lunches/diners coming besides more subtle psychological pressure.

I know that from my wife who also works in a clinic and she is not janitor either.
 
I tracked some patents issued for Burzynski vs the ones issued for NCI/Dvorit Samid (previous Burzynski's collaborator who stole the idea and repatented under NCI).

Burzynski's US patent #4470970 dated 1981 covers 3-[N-phenylacetylaminopiperidine]-2, 6-dion

NCI/Dvorit Samid US patent #6037376 dated 1991 covers "phenylacetate or pharmaceutically acceptable derivatives thereof"

Clearly 3-[N-phenylacetylaminopiperidine]-2, 6-dion is a "pharmaceutically acceptable derivatives of phenylacetate"

Burzynski holds a total of 17 patents related to his invention (dated 1980-2006): link

NCI/Dvorit Samid holds a total of 11 patents related to Burzynski's invention (dated 1991-1996): link

If ones reads the NCI/Dvorit Samid patents, they clearly show that the compounds work and are non-toxic, while NCI officially said/is saying that Burzynski's treatment is worthless and harmful.

The facts presented in the movie check out on this simple patent search.

For people who still claim that Burzynski is a fraud, how come he has so many patents and if the therapy is worthless how come National Cancer Institute (NCI) stole his invention and patented themself.

Food for thought.
 
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: PZR2874
^Can your wife explain why these companies "wine and dine" Dr's offices on a daily basis ?

Wife worked for a Dr's office for quite some time and 4 times a week RX companies/sales would bring the office lunch... Guess what... tax write off.


There is more to that. The sales reps will keep track how many prescriptions are written by each doc for their brand meds and confront them if the numbers go down. Docs don't want to upset their friendly reps because they want the free lunches/diners coming besides more subtle psychological pressure.

I know that from my wife who also works in a clinic and she is not janitor either.


Janitor... hahahahha

Funny.

Problem I have is that it's STILL a write off on their part. I asked a drug rep one time how much their monthly "expense report" totaled and she told me in excess of 6K.

6K ?

That's just one friggin rep mind you.
 
Originally Posted By: PZR2874
^Can your wife explain why these companies "wine and dine" Dr's offices on a daily basis ?

Wife worked for a Dr's office for quite some time and 4 times a week RX companies/sales would bring the office lunch... Guess what... tax write off.

Reason I take nothing. And I push waiting out colds. lol


Having worked as support for Pharma companies for years and having a great repoir with the Pharmaceutical reps I can tell you the wining and dining is to have an opportunity to sell them on the products, and they need to push sales hard.

Also helps that most of the female reps were very very attractive. Heck one rep for an unnamed pharma company I supported was hired about 13 months prior to a call I took for her. She was having problems accessing her finances on the company website and once I got her logged in I was really shocked. Fresh out of school, 13 months in and over 400k in savings/retirement. They are commissioned on top of a high 80-100k starting salary, company car paid for phone/computer ect.

It's all deductible to, so what is a $40-50 lunch when you can make more on the sale. It's all part of doing business.
 
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Also helps that most of the female reps were very very attractive.


Very true. Part of the sales tactics is that male MD will not say no to a beautiful woman, especially since they doesn't pay for those meds.

One of my family members was started on new brand meds recently and was given a free sample of those meds for a week. Sounds like a great deal, right? Later she filled a prescription and paid hundreds of dollars. When she complained about the cost to the MD, he didn't know the cost of meds was so high and was embarrassed since there are similar meds that work and cost under $10.
 
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek

Very true. Part of the sales tactics is that male MD will not say no to a beautiful woman, especially since they doesn't pay for those meds.


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sexist, but a true statement. I wonder with the shift to more female MD-s in the upcoming years, who the pharma sales reps will be if they continue to sell drugs...

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One of my family members was started on new brand meds recently and was given a free sample of those meds for a week. Sounds like a great deal, right? Later she filled a prescription and paid hundreds of dollars. When she complained about the cost to the MD, he didn't know the cost of meds was so high and was embarrassed since there are similar meds that work and cost under $10.


Was it Celebrex which has the same effectiveness as aspirin but costs a lot more and has more serious side effects?
 
Probably Viagra.

But seriously, people wonder about the Healthcare issues and this is/should be at the top if not REAL close.

I understand R&D... but c'mon
 
Nah, was celebrex.

Next time that you are in a Dr.s clinic, look around with an enquiring eye...ours was shocked when I showed him the drug name in his eye chart, while he wrote in a leather bounddiary with some other drug name on it.

I have a cousin, and her former Brother in law, who were both drug pushers for the same company. One was in "medicine", and one was veterinarian.

One drove a company BMW, provided antipasto platters for overworked Dr.s in their surgeries, and hosted education weeks and weekends at the Gold Coats, or Islands in that vicinity.

One drove a White Falcon station wagon, and handed out free samples.

Both admitted that the drugs were that same chemical compound, produced on the same production line.

One cost orders of magnitude more than the other...guess which one ?

And guess which prescriber was more aware of the side effects ?
 
Jacek, I apologize. You said you were in the medical field. It is quite vast as both science, art and business.

As for the pushers who make great income, most of them worked hard to get into the field, and not everybody can do it.
As informed consumers you could remind your doctor that there is a more effective and less expensive remedy.. or inquire about one. If you do not knock nobody will open. Like on the street: you don't have to use drugs, if you say 'No'.
As for this 'Aint No Justice' song, I don't buy it or any other Social justice proclamation - History taught us time and time again those come from swindlers.
 
Originally Posted By: PZR2874
^Can your wife explain why these companies "wine and dine" Dr's offices on a daily basis ?

Wife worked for a Dr's office for quite some time and 4 times a week RX companies/sales would bring the office lunch... Guess what... tax write off.

Reason I take nothing. And I push waiting out colds. lol


Like others said, that part of the business is pretty corrupted. I'm not saying big pharmas are saint, I'm just saying that they do not "do nothing" but coming up with new tweak to their patent-expired drugs. They actually do R&D (although not as much as the government sponsored researches in public / private universities) but like shooting in the dark, you don't know what you hit until after the shot.
 
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