Conventional oils and varnish

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Originally Posted by Trav
It is no strawman. Most cars in Germany are Euro cars where do you get this 4% failure number for German cars sold in Germany. Sorry I don't agree with your conclusions especially the 50% number. Where did you get these numbers, please post a link.
Compared to what? Hyundia and Kia with blown bottom ends, Nissans that suck the broken cat into the cylinders, GM V6 timing chain issues, Ford spark plug issues, GM LIM failures, GM V8 with failed oil pickup o ring and have low oil pressure, Subaru HG issues, Toyota sludge, Honda VCM and ring issues, etc, etc. They are all engine failures and every company has them to some extent, some defects are just worse than others.



It's a strawman you can Google engine failure rates by brand and you will find correlating data. The exact failure data rate I had to find and I'm not going to disclose the paper because I signed an agreement the exact figures are for academic research but what is disclosed is surprising. Germany has done a well job marketing its complex engineering and manufacturing but somewhere from design to production something is failing.
 
Originally Posted by newbe46
It took me almost an hour to thoroughly go through this thread and I happen to have both BMW S54 and a Honda J35A4, by the way.

My question is if there is varnished already developed, do I run shorter OCI and hope the detergent takes it away or does the engine need taking apart in order to service it?

You can use a good synthetic oil and shorten the oci to keep it at bay, and hopefully clean it. Or you could use an additive or flush with a good following for cleaning engine internals if you desire. Engine disassembly? How bad is it? Does the engine/engines in question run well? If so I wouldn't be tearing them down, I'd try what I mentioned above first.
 
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by StevieC

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(Alarm Bell Sounding).... There are several different types of Leukemia. Get your Dad tested asap.

My dad has cancer and has for the past 6 years. We are aware of it and he is in the end stages...



Sorry man your in my Prayers losing your Dad is the pits. The only thing worse I have experienced is losing a child.
 
"Is this one reason why blenders add a small percentage of esters to syn formulas?"

That, and to counter the effect of saturated oil on engine seals (think of what happens to your testicles when jumping into cold water).
Yes its true! And has been know for decades! Synthetic oil is harmful to baby seals! You insensitive @%^#!
 
"I don't believe myself to be wrong so I'm standing firm on it and we fine to let it go with a difference of opinion"

What does opinion have to do with physical reality? Seriously!
 
Originally Posted by dave1251



It's a strawman you can Google engine failure rates by brand and you will find correlating data. The exact failure data rate I had to find and I'm not going to disclose the paper because I signed an agreement the exact figures are for academic research but what is disclosed is surprising. Germany has done a well job marketing its complex engineering and manufacturing but somewhere from design to production something is failing.


How convenient. I don't buy it, I see just as many engine issues in all makes but whatever. Keep knocking German cars if it makes you feel better.
 
According to Quora...(2016)

https://www.quora.com/Mechanically-what-car-has-the-most-reliable-engine



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Originally Posted by ChemLabNL
"Is this one reason why blenders add a small percentage of esters to syn formulas?"

That, and to counter the effect of saturated oil on engine seals (think of what happens to your testicles when jumping into cold water).
Yes its true! And has been know for decades! Synthetic oil is harmful to baby seals! You insensitive @%^#!

Sorry, I am NOT going to think about that!


Darn it, now I'm thinking about it!!
Thanks a lot!!!!

;^)
 
Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Sorry, I am NOT going to think about that!
Darn it, now I'm thinking about it!!
Thanks a lot!!!!
;^)


Welcome to my world.
 
Originally Posted by wemay
According to Quora...(2016)

https://www.quora.com/Mechanically-what-car-has-the-most-reliable-engine



So we have Euro cars In the top and bottom 10 so what does that mean? We have no idea what the failures were. I have seen engines of many makes fail very early and as they age most cars are far from perfect.
Some of the best engines I have ever owned were VW and MB but there have been a few Japanese and US engines that were equally as good. The fact is the higher strung the engine is the more prone to failure if the required maintenance is not performed on time.

The other point is people that buy high priced cars are more than likely to complain and nitpick about little things the average Japanese car buyer would not. It is very easy to skew the results of Consumer Reports, JD Power surveys, etc.
 
Originally Posted by StevieC
Let me clarify for you Astro14, because I didn't walk it back.

Varnish won't hurt anything.


And seven pages, two days and a couple dozen posts later, you're still defending this position...while simultaneously admitting that varnish can be harmful.

Originally Posted by StevieC
Varnish won't hurt anything.


Keep typing...in a few dozen more posts, I'm certain you'll convince yourself that you're still right, despite completely changing your position...
 
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Originally Posted by Trav
Originally Posted by dave1251



It's a strawman you can Google engine failure rates by brand and you will find correlating data. The exact failure data rate I had to find and I'm not going to disclose the paper because I signed an agreement the exact figures are for academic research but what is disclosed is surprising. Germany has done a well job marketing its complex engineering and manufacturing but somewhere from design to production something is failing.


How convenient. I don't buy it, I see just as many engine issues in all makes but whatever. Keep knocking German cars if it makes you feel better.




Google it for yourself the data available for free is a couple of years old but it is still accurate. But you can keep your head in the sand if it makes you feel better because truth must hurt poor Trav.
 
Why would it bother me? I get paid when I work on any car or engine. You seem to be the one dead set on bashing anything you don't like and choose to ignore the fact that 3 Euro cars are in the top 5.
I thought you signed a non disclosure agreement but I can find it if I google.
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Yeah okay.
 
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