That's the right answer but not the good answer for many.
Considering Ozempic?
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The US and New Zealand are the only two developed countries that allow prescription drugs to be advertised. I am thinking it's not a good idea to allow advertising of prescription drugs.
People may disagree but I expect my doctor to be up on all the latest medications and then when he reviews my health and lab work, can prescribe the best drug for my symptoms.
Not going say, hey doc I saw this new drug on TV what do you think. You cannot read all the small print side effects on TV. Doc went to medical school. I got a degree in math and computers.
People may disagree but I expect my doctor to be up on all the latest medications and then when he reviews my health and lab work, can prescribe the best drug for my symptoms.
Not going say, hey doc I saw this new drug on TV what do you think. You cannot read all the small print side effects on TV. Doc went to medical school. I got a degree in math and computers.
So in short, it’s not a direct side effect, but Ozempic increases the risk of diabetic retinopathy which in turn can lead to detached retinas.
I was hospitalized with acute pancreatitis 4 times from 2021-2022, which is the main reason I am now 2 years sober. I wouldn't wish AP on anybody, ever, period. It is more painful than words can describe.
That's not how it works with regards to efficacy vs placebo. You're not getting approved with a 1% delta. You need a p> 0.05 to prove efficacy for most trials to get approved.
Some drugs showed some questionable side effects or they are expensive. The drug that we brought to market a few years ago had some side effects and was approved for second line approval meaning that patients need to try and fail another drug before that can take our drug. It's also very expensive.
I've worked oncology investigative drugs for many years. People are working many many hours to find cures and treatments for cancer. Money doesn't drive these scientists.
Cures and treatment are what it's all about. I'm sure they are dedicated folks. Too bad we can't fix the intentional food poisoning that is the FDA approved American diet and the vaccine induced immunity deficits. Same with viruses, ivermectin will knock them dead. Why was it/is it so chagrined?
The big joke is on the people as the companies and government and big medical and big insurance are all in this to make money and we are the source of their income. So treating symptoms is the goal, not preventing the problems in the first place.
My dog takes ivermectin for heart worm prevention. People - not so much. Do you have studies showing it works for viral illnesses in humans? Pretty sure studies showed it did nothing for covid. The history of public health shows vaccines saved lives. Smallpox, Polio, flu, covid etc. While no medicine or vaccine is w/o side effects and some will have adverse effects, Ill take my vaccines thank you.
I agree diet is key. Coming from someone that has CHD and severe stenosis from too many in and out double doubles and similar ****, along with family history and stressful career.
Eating better now. Taking statins, aspirin and beta blockers. Stress reduction. Maybe a stent soon. Namaste!
Ozempic and glp1 drugs may have cardio-protective effects, blood sugar control, weight loss, and research continues.
After watching my father die a slow and terrible death from dementia - I hope they figure something out for that illness. Would rather die quickly than go out that way.
I agree diet is key. Coming from someone that has CHD and severe stenosis from too many in and out double doubles and similar ****, along with family history and stressful career.
Eating better now. Taking statins, aspirin and beta blockers. Stress reduction. Maybe a stent soon. Namaste!
Ozempic and glp1 drugs may have cardio-protective effects, blood sugar control, weight loss, and research continues.
After watching my father die a slow and terrible death from dementia - I hope they figure something out for that illness. Would rather die quickly than go out that way.
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There are plenty of studies that show it's effectiveness. It is the controlled media that hides it because it is so cheap and effective. And the cause of cancer some think is parasitic and weakened immune, the same with virus.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11008553/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z
Couldn't have said it any better
I'm still wondering why grains are the largest group in the food pyramid and why Velveeta is considered food.
Is that the Kraft factory by all the dealerships in Naperville?
Edit: just saw it's made in Minnesota. I've never really liked it. We had it growing up but via the food pantries.
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The list of side effect of these drugs is simply eye popping.
My very own MD told me something verbally and he makes money on this stuff.................something like 80%+ people who start taking Ozempic are off it in 30 days (don't quote this as medical science) - just saying.
My very own MD told me something verbally and he makes money on this stuff.................something like 80%+ people who start taking Ozempic are off it in 30 days (don't quote this as medical science) - just saying.
Im fine with drug companies advertising. It's impossible to know what is available and what is not. I also think unrealistic for doctors to be up to date on every latest drug that hits the market.
As a consumer knowing what is available allows you and your doctor to look into if something is right for you.
I do not agree that denying drug information to the public is in the publics best interest. Go USA.
and New Zealand
Free flow of information is always best
As a consumer knowing what is available allows you and your doctor to look into if something is right for you.
I do not agree that denying drug information to the public is in the publics best interest. Go USA.
and New ZealandFree flow of information is always best
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What was his reasoning?
Side effects and high cost would be two major reasons for people to stop taking it.
its NOT eze BUT type II diabetes is said to be a LIFESTYLE disease caused by YOUR lifestyle + i can be CURED according to many savy nutritional Drs!! at 12 YO i was about 175 lb + NOT tall, eating too much to often + lots of SUGARY foods!!! lots to learn on the internet about CURING diseases, again NOT eze + it takes months or years depending on how out of sync your body is!! brother-in-law is on a very low dose ozembic thats working for him. he was a bit heavy BUT problem controlling his blood glucose + talking to him i believe many beliefs about food from his doc + nutritionist were WRONG the reason he could NOT control his glucose levels. controlling insulin is KEY as noted by dr sten ekburg, he notes fasting glucose tells you little +an A1C is better BUT the HOMA IR test tells all whats coming as a high # or just a high fasting insulin says your eating + drinking poorly + your body is pumping out insulin TRYING to control blood, glucose good luck to all as health is Wealth IMO!!
Have taken it since the first of the year. Have knocked 1.0 off my A1C as of May bloodwork. I'm sure it's improved well since then. Have lost ~50 pounds since starting. Zero negative effects at any point. My best half has about 8 weeks taking it and also zero negatives. I can't remember her A1C numbers but a definite improvement.
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