I stopped by Walmart today to pick up oil and filter for my dads 2002 Suburban and I was looking at the PF46 and opened it up like always and it looked completely different on the inside. Instead of the solid looking steel I saw a flat piece that looked stuck in there. Also there was a PF46E I think and it didn't look right either. I used the little computer thing and now it says to use the PF61? What's going on and what filter do I use? It's a 5.3L in the Suburban.
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So the PF46 is the correct one that I have always used in the past right? Why does it look so different inside the filter? I was just reading through another thread and someone mentioned that the PF61 actually has different threads than the PF46? ohhhh, too many choices
And what's an e-core?
And what's an e-core?
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Originally Posted By: RoGuE
And what's an e-core?
And what's an e-core?
Originally Posted By: RoGuE
So the PF46 is the correct one that I have always used in the past right? Why does it look so different inside the filter? I was just reading through another thread and someone mentioned that the PF61 actually has different threads than the PF46? ohhhh, too many choices
And what's an e-core?
Here's a PF46 Cut open.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1884079
So the PF46 is the correct one that I have always used in the past right? Why does it look so different inside the filter? I was just reading through another thread and someone mentioned that the PF61 actually has different threads than the PF46? ohhhh, too many choices
And what's an e-core?
Here's a PF46 Cut open.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1884079
If I were to use the PF61, would I have to put more than my usual 6 quarts in or it shouldn't differ by that much?
The thing that gets me is that when I was in the store the PF46 and the PF46E (which I assume is the one with the funny looking flat steel plate) looked the same. I can only assume it was in the wrong box or something. I'll go back tomorrow and take a look.
The thing that gets me is that when I was in the store the PF46 and the PF46E (which I assume is the one with the funny looking flat steel plate) looked the same. I can only assume it was in the wrong box or something. I'll go back tomorrow and take a look.
Originally Posted By: RoGuE
So the PF46 is the correct one that I have always used in the past right? Why does it look so different inside the filter? I was just reading through another thread and someone mentioned that the PF61 actually has different threads than the PF46? ohhhh, too many choices
And what's an e-core?
Only thing I can think of is you misread something?
The PF46 and PF61 both use a 13/16-16 thread. They are identical dimension wise except the PF61 is longer. Family members have vehicles that use these filters. When we can't find the PF61's we use the PF46.
So the PF46 is the correct one that I have always used in the past right? Why does it look so different inside the filter? I was just reading through another thread and someone mentioned that the PF61 actually has different threads than the PF46? ohhhh, too many choices
And what's an e-core?
Only thing I can think of is you misread something?
The PF46 and PF61 both use a 13/16-16 thread. They are identical dimension wise except the PF61 is longer. Family members have vehicles that use these filters. When we can't find the PF61's we use the PF46.
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Yep.
In WIX:
Part Number: 51042
UPC Number: 765809510425
Principal Application: Various GM Cars & Trucks (75-76) (96-10)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 13/16-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 320
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
Part Number: 51522
UPC Number: 765809515222
Principal Application: AMC (82-86), GM, Saturn (93-10), Jeep (81-86), Isuzu (03-09), Saab (06-09)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.526
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 13/16-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 290
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
In WIX:
Part Number: 51042
UPC Number: 765809510425
Principal Application: Various GM Cars & Trucks (75-76) (96-10)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 13/16-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 320
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
Part Number: 51522
UPC Number: 765809515222
Principal Application: AMC (82-86), GM, Saturn (93-10), Jeep (81-86), Isuzu (03-09), Saab (06-09)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.526
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 13/16-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 290
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
I went to Walmart and opened literally every box of the PF46 (and PF46E) and PF61 (and PF61E). Every single one was the ecore regardless of the E at the end or not. It seems like they used up the old boxes and stickers on the filters themselves for the e-cores and have completely phased out the old ones. So I ended up buying two PF61s (one was an E. I figured I would get each one in case no one believed me then i could take pictures as proof) 
Also, what is the general consensus on the e-cores? Are they just as durable as the classics? The Suburban gets an oil change about every 3 months (when the OLM calls for it) but my sisters Tahoe with the same engine can go about 6 months or maybe more before it gets an oil change.
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Those who use them, like them. Those who don't like them, well ..they really don't like them.
I find the design clever. I have no reservations about using them.
That said, they were a neat little nugget to carry out of Wally's for $2.02 back in the day. Now at $2.65 (or whatever) the Motor Craft next door to it for $3.55 (or whatever) is more appealing ..as is the $2.29 ProSelect from NAPA.
I find the design clever. I have no reservations about using them.
That said, they were a neat little nugget to carry out of Wally's for $2.02 back in the day. Now at $2.65 (or whatever) the Motor Craft next door to it for $3.55 (or whatever) is more appealing ..as is the $2.29 ProSelect from NAPA.
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