Chrysler Headquarters move to London.

[hattaresguy]

Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Originally Posted By: supton
With Dodge spinning the Ram name off (somehow), will the Ram "ownership" stay stateside? I mean, truck owners tend to be pretty defensive about owning an American truck and all.


The Toyota Tundra is the most American pickup now if you look at percentage of domestic parts on the window stickers.


What I meant was, all the pickup owners who would never own an import and who are wed to their American Dodge, would they stomach their Ram trucks being "foreign" trucks? Or would Ram stay stateside owned? It didn't make much sense to drop the name Doge from the Ram line, at least not at the time. But if Dodge becomes foreign owned... Ram can stay American, somehow.


It makes perfect sense. Fiat wants to separate brands for spin offs should the ship sink.

Now they can sell off Ram trucks, Jeep, and SRT as separate brands.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: Bandito440
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Foreign ownership is no obstacle...at least, not judging by the many government-owned Freightliners.

The USPS has a bunch of cargo Caravans and a few stake-bed Ram 3500's.


Perhaps is differs by agency, but I've dealt with a handful of vehicle contracts for the Feds that all required bidders to be headquarterd in the US. The bid request for the new presidential limo does too.

I believe that the USPS doesn't truck the mail between facilities anymore. At least where I live, the shipments between post offices and sorting facilities are all contracted out.


They do the local box pickups, and many of those are FL's. (Replacing the old GMC Stepvans.)

 

[artificialist]

Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Originally Posted By: supton
With Dodge spinning the Ram name off (somehow), will the Ram "ownership" stay stateside? I mean, truck owners tend to be pretty defensive about owning an American truck and all.


The Toyota Tundra is the most American pickup now if you look at percentage of domestic parts on the window stickers.


What I meant was, all the pickup owners who would never own an import and who are wed to their American Dodge, would they stomach their Ram trucks being "foreign" trucks? Or would Ram stay stateside owned? It didn't make much sense to drop the name Doge from the Ram line, at least not at the time. But if Dodge becomes foreign owned... Ram can stay American, somehow.

This reminds me of when my grandmother bought her first Chrysler T&C van in 2004. She said her van absolutely had to have an American name on it, even though I showed her that Benz owned the Chrysler group at the time, and that the final assembly point was in Canada.

All it did was make me wish that the Mercury Villager still existed, because Nissan built better V6 engines and automatic transmissions than Chrysler did.

 

[Mykl]

I may be in need of some education here....

Is this Chrysler as in the parent company that's moving? ...or Chrysler the brand name-plate that's moving?

If it's the parent company, can I start teasing my Ram driving friends who take pride in their 'Murican trucks for actually owning imports?

 

[Hokiefyd]

I work on a US Army installation and we have a lot of GSA Hyundais. Maybe there is a "Hyundai USA" HQ they fall back on, similar to how Toyota and Honda have US-based corporations.

 

[jeepman3071]

Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Originally Posted By: supton
With Dodge spinning the Ram name off (somehow), will the Ram "ownership" stay stateside? I mean, truck owners tend to be pretty defensive about owning an American truck and all.


The Toyota Tundra is the most American pickup now if you look at percentage of domestic parts on the window stickers.


What I meant was, all the pickup owners who would never own an import and who are wed to their American Dodge, would they stomach their Ram trucks being "foreign" trucks? Or would Ram stay stateside owned? It didn't make much sense to drop the name Doge from the Ram line, at least not at the time. But if Dodge becomes foreign owned... Ram can stay American, somehow.


Those kind of pickup owners are very ignorant. You could tell them their truck is made elsewhere and even prove it by the sticker on the body and they will still claim they have an "American" truck that beats all those "imports".

Example: I have a friend who owns a 2003 Duramax. Duramax is an Isuzu diesel engine, and it has an Isuzu name plate right on the side of the block. Even when I showed him the name plate on the block he insisted it was a Chevrolet engine not an Isuzu.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I recall that after 2005, GM bought out Isuzu and does, in fact, own all of the Duramax line.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Originally Posted By: measureman
Good riddance to a company that has made 2nd rate vehicles for decades.Auto transmissions that went bad at a 100k over and over again.
I had a number of them before I wised up.
Stunning designs and bad engineering.Good looks sell.


The part about second rate vehicles is correct. But 100K out of a chrysler automatic transmission is a bit optomistic. Lots of caravans and dodge trucks (and Jeeps) failed at under 50K.

They did make a lot of sub par vehicles.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
I recall that after 2005, GM bought out Isuzu and does, in fact, own all of the Duramax line.


According to Wikipedia:

Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
The Duramax is a General Motors diesel engine family for light-and medium duty trucks, designed by Isuzu. The 6.6-liter Duramax is produced by DMAX, a joint venture between GM and Isuzu in Moraine, Ohio. The Duramax block and heads are poured at The Defiance GM Powertrain foundry in Defiance, Ohio. This engine was initially installed in 2001 model year Chevy and GMC trucks and has been an option since then in pickups, vans, and medium-duty trucks. In 2006, production at Moraine was reportedly limited to approximately 200,000 engines per year.[1] On May 9, 2007, DMAX announced the production of the 1,000,000th Duramax V-8 diesel at its Moraine facility.

 

[hattaresguy]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
I may be in need of some education here....

Is this Chrysler as in the parent company that's moving? ...or Chrysler the brand name-plate that's moving?

If it's the parent company, can I start teasing my Ram driving friends who take pride in their 'Murican trucks for actually owning imports?


Chrysler has not been a stand alone American owned company since 1998 when Daimler AG bought them.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: Miller88
Originally Posted By: measureman
Good riddance to a company that has made 2nd rate vehicles for decades.Auto transmissions that went bad at a 100k over and over again.
I had a number of them before I wised up.
Stunning designs and bad engineering.Good looks sell.


The part about second rate vehicles is correct. But 100K out of a chrysler automatic transmission is a bit optomistic. Lots of caravans and dodge trucks (and Jeeps) failed at under 50K.

They did make a lot of sub par vehicles.


Yeah, my stepfather "only" managed to put 200k each on two different Concordes! One needed a trans just short of 195k, the other was just traded with the original and 230k.