Chinese EV Thoughts? Curious on more technical info

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[Wireman1987]

They are great cars.

The whole accident looked like it was induced he did that on purpose he whipped the wheel side to side for no reason

 

[tcp71]

The whole accident looked like it was induced he did that on purpose he whipped the wheel side to side for no reason

looks like he was trying to correct for catching the right side wheels in the grass and going unstable. And this is (below) is why you don't by Chinese EVs. Cost cutting at every corner...getting away with whatever they can. The audacity to write "brembo" on the outside. Chinese goods are a facade without substance.

 

[97prizm]

I haven't been to China in a while, but my recent trip made me realize how far behind on EVs we are in the North American market.

I was surprised to see that close to half the passenger vehicles in major cities are EVs. All public transit and ride share/taxis are EV. Even many light/medium duty trucks are EV. What's also surprising is in the more rural areas I was seeing more EVs than here in Canada and they still somehow have better charging infrastructure.

For less than $20k USD, they have EVs that can get 400km+ range. While the build quality definitely felt flimsy/plastic...I still saw many high mileage 300k+ kms vehicles and according to the drivers, they've been relatively reliable. NVH and ride quality can be fairly poor on the cheap units, but on the mid grade ones it wasn't actually that bad. On the high end, there also exists vehicles which seemingly exceed what our typical brands (eg. Tesla) are producing like the Xiaomi SU7.

I'm curious to see what you guys think about these vehicles and your experiences/observations. Are they really that much lower quality (eg. less safe)? I'm guessing they wouldn't do well in the cold without extra systems (battery pre-conditioning, heat pumps). What's preventing the North American car market from being remotely competitive to these offerings?

China has heavily subsidized companies to produce ev's. Now the government is telling companies to cool it on ev production as vehicles are starting to pile up on lots, and lose value quicker.

 

[KrisZ]

looks like he was trying to correct for catching the right side wheels in the grass and going unstable. And this is (below) is why you don't by Chinese EVs. Cost cutting at every corner...getting away with whatever they can. The audacity to write "brembo" on the outside. Chinese goods are a facade without substance.

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Yup, but people look at the quality of their iPhone and go “see, China can make good stuff!”. Sure they can, when they’re heavily controlled by their western masters, but if left to their own devices, they will skip every step just to look good.
They don’t care about safety, pollution, any sort of standards.

Here is an example of the propaganda about their “advanced” robotics programs and what’s even worse is that a lot of the western media just eats up the propaganda. No wonder many people think China is more advanced than US.

 

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Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe said Chinese automakers can take advantage of low labor costs and domestic subsidies to an extent Western competitors cannot.