Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
The legal system in this country when it comes to divorce and custody is stacked against the man in a HUGE way.
You are only looking at one side of it. My daughter went through a divorce 6 years ago. She gets $950 dollars of support to raise 3 kids. The home equity was to be split in half. The Husband kept dragging his feet. The court didn't hold him in contempt as they should have. and ultimately declared bankruptcy. 42 years ago. My daughter paid for most of the house when they were married.
Family court is a joke. The legal system in this country is a joke. Also go into a woman abuse center and talk to them there about how the man always gets screwed.
He took my daughter back into court 9 times. (cost her about 1500 every time)
1st of all we are not talking about physical abuse here. That is 100% a different topic than what is going on in this thread. A woman's abuse shelter is not relevant to this topic IMO.
I am looking at it from the info provided and from a view point where I have never seen any outcome but the man screwed over and in a HUGE way. Yes, there are times when the man is the issue and deserves every thing he gets( cheats, abusive, etc... ). I am not anti woman or anything just someone who is honest about how it is in this country these days. I wouldn't dare get married if I had any real money behind me even with a pre-nup. Just too big a risk.
In a divorce and/or custody battle most times, in these days, the man gets royally reamed out even when he has done nothing wrong. You need the best lawyer there is just to not lose every cent you have or will ever have. Forget coming out of it with a fair and equitable settlement. Plan on coming out on the short stick even if you have done nothingw rong and she is an abuser, cheats on you, and the divorce was all her idea.
No person who can look at divorce/custody in this country, these days, with an honest and unbiased view point, could say anything but the odds are all stacked against the man. Doesn't matter if he is a batterer or a saint he will get treated the same.
Try this. In my friends divorce I talk of earlier the ex asked the MM to award her my friend's Dad's antique train set( big set worth a lot - approx 15 grand )when he passed on. It is in his will that it go to my friend. Now, the MM did not award it to her BUT he did take the value of it and count it towards what my friend got in the settlement. Please don't talk to me about who paid most towards what when something left to you in a will, that is not yours at the time of the divorce, counts towards your settlement figure. This was something that did not even belong to my friend yet the value was included in the divorce. Fair? Hardly.
His ex repeatedely signed her spousal rights to my friends property away as well( rental house, their home, etc... )yet in the divorce she got it ALL. He had to sell all of his stocks, cash in his 401K, leave the hosue he alone paid for( she never contributed to it ), and on and on and split it with her. These are things he ahd prior to the marriage. He is flat broke now with NOTHING left for his hard work. If not for his dad helping him find a place to live he would be homeless.
Try this one on.. The MM said because he left the house prior to the divorce, and the ex lived there during the time the divorce was ongoing, that she should get it. Of course he is the one that ordered my friend out of the house. He did not leave the house the MM kicked him out! The MM then says because he left it should be hers. Fair? Hardly.
THAT is the kind of bull puckey I am talking about that goes on men face these days in divorce/custody hearings. I am afraid my friend will wind up in jail. He is out of work an unable to pay $1500 a month let alone $14000 in back CS that is totally bogus. My friend spends every cent he has on his kids. He is no dead beat. He goes without himself so they have everything they need. The ex does NOTHING for the kids and does not need the money and will only use it for her needs not the kids. His ex makes over $100K a year as said and my friend is now barely making $20K in part time construction management work when he can pick up a project now and then( construction field is DEAD up here ).
I am sorry your daughter had a hard time but PLEASE don't think that is the norm.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
The legal system in this country when it comes to divorce and custody is stacked against the man in a HUGE way.
You are only looking at one side of it. My daughter went through a divorce 6 years ago. She gets $950 dollars of support to raise 3 kids. The home equity was to be split in half. The Husband kept dragging his feet. The court didn't hold him in contempt as they should have. and ultimately declared bankruptcy. 42 years ago. My daughter paid for most of the house when they were married.
Family court is a joke. The legal system in this country is a joke. Also go into a woman abuse center and talk to them there about how the man always gets screwed.
He took my daughter back into court 9 times. (cost her about 1500 every time)
1st of all we are not talking about physical abuse here. That is 100% a different topic than what is going on in this thread. A woman's abuse shelter is not relevant to this topic IMO.
I am looking at it from the info provided and from a view point where I have never seen any outcome but the man screwed over and in a HUGE way. Yes, there are times when the man is the issue and deserves every thing he gets( cheats, abusive, etc... ). I am not anti woman or anything just someone who is honest about how it is in this country these days. I wouldn't dare get married if I had any real money behind me even with a pre-nup. Just too big a risk.
In a divorce and/or custody battle most times, in these days, the man gets royally reamed out even when he has done nothing wrong. You need the best lawyer there is just to not lose every cent you have or will ever have. Forget coming out of it with a fair and equitable settlement. Plan on coming out on the short stick even if you have done nothingw rong and she is an abuser, cheats on you, and the divorce was all her idea.
No person who can look at divorce/custody in this country, these days, with an honest and unbiased view point, could say anything but the odds are all stacked against the man. Doesn't matter if he is a batterer or a saint he will get treated the same.
Try this. In my friends divorce I talk of earlier the ex asked the MM to award her my friend's Dad's antique train set( big set worth a lot - approx 15 grand )when he passed on. It is in his will that it go to my friend. Now, the MM did not award it to her BUT he did take the value of it and count it towards what my friend got in the settlement. Please don't talk to me about who paid most towards what when something left to you in a will, that is not yours at the time of the divorce, counts towards your settlement figure. This was something that did not even belong to my friend yet the value was included in the divorce. Fair? Hardly.
His ex repeatedely signed her spousal rights to my friends property away as well( rental house, their home, etc... )yet in the divorce she got it ALL. He had to sell all of his stocks, cash in his 401K, leave the hosue he alone paid for( she never contributed to it ), and on and on and split it with her. These are things he ahd prior to the marriage. He is flat broke now with NOTHING left for his hard work. If not for his dad helping him find a place to live he would be homeless.
Try this one on.. The MM said because he left the house prior to the divorce, and the ex lived there during the time the divorce was ongoing, that she should get it. Of course he is the one that ordered my friend out of the house. He did not leave the house the MM kicked him out! The MM then says because he left it should be hers. Fair? Hardly.
THAT is the kind of bull puckey I am talking about that goes on men face these days in divorce/custody hearings. I am afraid my friend will wind up in jail. He is out of work an unable to pay $1500 a month let alone $14000 in back CS that is totally bogus. My friend spends every cent he has on his kids. He is no dead beat. He goes without himself so they have everything they need. The ex does NOTHING for the kids and does not need the money and will only use it for her needs not the kids. His ex makes over $100K a year as said and my friend is now barely making $20K in part time construction management work when he can pick up a project now and then( construction field is DEAD up here ).
I am sorry your daughter had a hard time but PLEASE don't think that is the norm.
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