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Originally Posted By: dareo
Pan handlers do not pay taxes on that income, and you gain no tax benefit from paying them. Just give to a real charity with 501.c3 status, or someone you personally know that is truly in need.
You don't consider a guy standing out in the rain, snow and cold for 8 hrs a day asking for money someone in need?
Pan handlers do not pay taxes on that income, and you gain no tax benefit from paying them. Just give to a real charity with 501.c3 status, or someone you personally know that is truly in need.
You don't consider a guy standing out in the rain, snow and cold for 8 hrs a day asking for money someone in need?
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Originally Posted By: dareo
Pan handlers do not pay taxes on that income, and you gain no tax benefit from paying them. Just give to a real charity with 501.c3 status, or someone you personally know that is truly in need.
You don't consider a guy standing out in the rain, snow and cold for 8 hrs a day asking for money someone in need?
If he can stand for 8 hrs. a day in bad weather...he can perform a job.
You think with emotion other than even a shred of logic.
Do you think that JUST MAYBE some of these panhandlers are unworthy of ANY help because they are lazy, conniving, and dishonest? Or do you always blanket the homeless as having a halo above them?
Originally Posted By: dareo
Pan handlers do not pay taxes on that income, and you gain no tax benefit from paying them. Just give to a real charity with 501.c3 status, or someone you personally know that is truly in need.
You don't consider a guy standing out in the rain, snow and cold for 8 hrs a day asking for money someone in need?
If he can stand for 8 hrs. a day in bad weather...he can perform a job.
You think with emotion other than even a shred of logic.
Do you think that JUST MAYBE some of these panhandlers are unworthy of ANY help because they are lazy, conniving, and dishonest? Or do you always blanket the homeless as having a halo above them?
andrewg said:
I disagree with you about 75% of the time... But on this point I agree with you. People don't realize they are only a serious accident and or illness that leads to REAL disability that can totally bankrupt them. In these circumstances can turn their lives into a FAR different place then they ever thought could happen. I know this first hand. Try going totally blind in left eye at 24 yrs old, diagnosed with incurable illness multiple sclerosis. There's far more to my situation... But I'm not going to bore y'all with that
But its a lot to it. I'm one of the luckiest people around. I realize this almost everyday.
But its a lot to it. I'm one of the luckiest people around. I realize this almost everyday.
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
andrewg said:
I also think that if someone feels the need to announce what they give or do for charity, that it is no longer a charity. Same thing goes for people that do it for the sole purpose of writing it off on the income tax.
That is why I do not give to "charity" organizations. Spending millions on advertisement campaigns and then more to announce to the world how much they gave and having execs making obscene amounts of money is no longer charity.
That is why I do not give to "charity" organizations. Spending millions on advertisement campaigns and then more to announce to the world how much they gave and having execs making obscene amounts of money is no longer charity.
Yeah, it's strange...but, the harder I work, the luckier I get...
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I also think that if someone feels the need to announce what they give or do for charity, that it is no longer a charity. Same thing goes for people that do it for the sole purpose of writing it off on the income tax.
That is why I do not give to "charity" organizations. Spending millions on advertisement campaigns and then more to announce to the world how much they gave and having execs making obscene amounts of money is no longer charity.
Good post.
I also think that if someone feels the need to announce what they give or do for charity, that it is no longer a charity. Same thing goes for people that do it for the sole purpose of writing it off on the income tax.
That is why I do not give to "charity" organizations. Spending millions on advertisement campaigns and then more to announce to the world how much they gave and having execs making obscene amounts of money is no longer charity.
Good post.
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Pannhandlers are lazy scourge on our society. I have yet to see them hold up a sign saying will work for money. I would consider giving them some money if they held up a sign that says "Will rake leaves for money."
Many folks have literally walked over to them and asked them if they want to make some honest money by doing some simple job for them.....I've yet to hear about one that said yes.
Labor is a four letter word to most of these leaches. And WHY should they work when so many foolish people keep giving them money for doing absolutely nothing??
Pannhandlers are lazy scourge on our society. I have yet to see them hold up a sign saying will work for money. I would consider giving them some money if they held up a sign that says "Will rake leaves for money."
Many folks have literally walked over to them and asked them if they want to make some honest money by doing some simple job for them.....I've yet to hear about one that said yes.
Labor is a four letter word to most of these leaches. And WHY should they work when so many foolish people keep giving them money for doing absolutely nothing??
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Yeah, it's strange...but, the harder I work, the luckier I get...
Isn't that a head-scratcher....go figure.
Yeah, it's strange...but, the harder I work, the luckier I get...
Isn't that a head-scratcher....go figure.
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Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
andrewg said:
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
If he can stand for 8 hrs. a day in bad weather...he can perform a job.
I was a homeless drunk for almost 1 year at one point. I slept on the 24hr subway or at the airports. I panhandled in downtown Chicago and at best I could make maybe $50 bucks a day? The police threatened me off Michigan Ave. I assure you that I could not work a real job. I was constantly drunk and staggering around. A few folks here judge people and have no idea how lucky they are.
50 tax free dollars per day is better than minimum wage. I realize Chicago has a high cost of living, but perhaps if you put that money towards other things than booze?
This is why I do not give cash to homeless people.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach him to fish and he eats for a lifetime.
If he can stand for 8 hrs. a day in bad weather...he can perform a job.
I was a homeless drunk for almost 1 year at one point. I slept on the 24hr subway or at the airports. I panhandled in downtown Chicago and at best I could make maybe $50 bucks a day? The police threatened me off Michigan Ave. I assure you that I could not work a real job. I was constantly drunk and staggering around. A few folks here judge people and have no idea how lucky they are.
50 tax free dollars per day is better than minimum wage. I realize Chicago has a high cost of living, but perhaps if you put that money towards other things than booze?
This is why I do not give cash to homeless people.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach him to fish and he eats for a lifetime.
Just to tell the homeless to "get a job" is a simple answer that, at times, can be absurd. I had a few "regulars" that gave me some good donations.It was pretty obvious that I was intoxicated but they still gave. I never had anyone offer me a job but truthfully I wasn't looking for a job. I was just looking for cash.
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