CD-2 Oil Detergent good / bad?
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I don't think it has detergent like your hinting, but it's not much more than 20 weight oil, there are some VOA's on it somewhere. It doesn't clean at all either. If you use CD2 I would recommend SLOB or the 75k miles treatment. I would really recommend just sticking with straight oil and if your engine is getting older do an Autorx treatment and clean the metal so your oil works better. Autorx is a safe cleaner that will liquefy sludge and burnt oil slowly as opposed to solvents that some people say may clog your filter. I've done treamentt on many old vehicles and I have been amazed at how good it works.
it says oil detergent. see link http://www.midwayautosupply.com/pc-2119-68-cd-2-oil-detergent-15-oz-4111.aspx
I think it is supposed to be on par with Rislone. It is sold as a cleaner. I am not sure on the autorx stuff seems to be too much hype for it here and it is high priced... I may consider it sometime later but NOT now. I just wanted to know if someone has used the CD2 before and what their results were with it.
I think it is supposed to be on par with Rislone. It is sold as a cleaner. I am not sure on the autorx stuff seems to be too much hype for it here and it is high priced... I may consider it sometime later but NOT now. I just wanted to know if someone has used the CD2 before and what their results were with it.
As I recall from memory, Molakule did a UOA on this stuff and it was pretty useless. Save your money and buy some ARX.
How can you say Auto-Rx is high priced ? it is not hyped it just works and carry's a money back guarantee if it did not perform to your satisfaction.
You can buy $9.95 one size fits all solvent based cleaner anywhere, if thats your hearts desire. Good luck.
You can buy $9.95 one size fits all solvent based cleaner anywhere, if thats your hearts desire. Good luck.
Get yourself some Schaeffer's Neutra 131. You can use it in the crankcase and in the fuel.
EOGHAN,
I do have first hand knowledge of CD2, the chemistry is suspect and I saw no cleaning abilty. Don't be a baby about it just because you are not hearing what you want to hear. Nobody is saying CD2 is a bad product, in fact SLOB and 75k mile treatment are beneficial to add to a cheap oil, but based on the facts and experience the CD2 detergent is garbage. I didn't post my findings because it made no difference in a old vehicle I had, and it did no visable cleaning.
My trial of CD2 Detergent
I do have first hand knowledge of CD2, the chemistry is suspect and I saw no cleaning abilty. Don't be a baby about it just because you are not hearing what you want to hear. Nobody is saying CD2 is a bad product, in fact SLOB and 75k mile treatment are beneficial to add to a cheap oil, but based on the facts and experience the CD2 detergent is garbage. I didn't post my findings because it made no difference in a old vehicle I had, and it did no visable cleaning.
My trial of CD2 Detergent
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I'm not sure why I'm bothering to help this a-hat, but for the sake of having good information I'll post the VOA that Molakule went to the trouble of getting. Eoghan, you are asking about something that cleans an engine, don't be suprised if someone tells you the best alternative as we know it. It's not hype, we are trying to be helpful. If you would like to put junk in your engine, go ahead. Why bother asking a question here if you are just going to have an attitude?
I'm not sure why I'm bothering to help this a-hat, but for the sake of having good information I'll post the VOA that Molakule went to the trouble of getting. Eoghan, you are asking about something that cleans an engine, don't be suprised if someone tells you the best alternative as we know it. It's not hype, we are trying to be helpful. If you would like to put junk in your engine, go ahead. Why bother asking a question here if you are just going to have an attitude?
If I had any attitude it is because I get an atuorx commercial in answer to my question. And as far as an attitude I didn't resort to calling someone names just because they aren't all glassy eyed over autorx. If autorx works for you great I am glad! But I did not ask about autorx, if I wanted to know about it I could have read the other 18 million other posts about it... and I have done that. If you would have given me the info in the first place that would have been nice. Thanks for the links to the info. I can now see that it is junk based on someone else's experience. That is all I wanted to know!
THANK YOU TALL PAUL FOR AT LEAST SUGGESTING SOMETHING OTHER THAN AUTORX!!!
THANK YOU TALL PAUL FOR AT LEAST SUGGESTING SOMETHING OTHER THAN AUTORX!!!
Hmm, you have some issues. Gee I guess the other TWO CD2 things I recommended just fell on deaf ears? I called you a name because you are acting like a fool. I could care less if you get glassy eyed over autorx or not. It's not a very "exciting" product, it's just a safe ecological cleaner- no thrills just good chemistry. I gave you good options for CD2 products and an option for a good cleaner, which looked like you where looking for since you were inquiring about a detergent. You have some kind of complex or something about Autorx, lol? Why not jump down my throat for offering up two Cd2 alternatives? Everyone was trying to HELP you because you are new and your question was ambiguos. You didn't state the "reason" you were looking to use an additive. If you say you want a detergent, and you are asking about a JUNK product, then don't be suprised that people are going to offer you a better option. If you were looking for an additive, than Cd2 makes one of the few additives that people around here think are beneficial based on the VOA's. It's clear that you are not new here, so no reason for anyone to help you in the future. Use the search button next time mr hat.
Looking for another cleaning product?
Have you considered Mobil 1 HM?
I took pictures on the top end of my 98 Civic with 109k miles light varnish but no real sludge like my 93 Civic has which is currently in rise cycle 1 of Auto-Rx.
I will post 98 Civic pics when I get closer to the next oil change. Mobil is boasting rather dramatic cleaning recommending shorter OCI. Time will tell. My only reservation is the oil is a tad thick for the winters here. $20 for a 5 quart jug at China Mart is not a bad deal.
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Mobil 1 propaganda follows:
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAXXENPVLMOMobil_1_High_Mileage_Oil.asp
Features and Benefits
Mobil 1 High Mileage oils are made with a proprietary blend of high performance synthetic basestocks fortified with an additive system designed especially for higher mileage vehicles. Mobil 1 High Mileage oils are especially recommended for high mileage vehicles even those that have used lower quality conventional oils. (Note 1)
Note 1 -- If your engine has excessive sludge deposits due to less-than-adequate maintenance practices, Mobil 1 High Mileage can help by reducing the sludge left behind by conventional oils. For severe cases of sludge, short oil change intervals (3000 - 5000 miles) are recommended for the first 2-3 oil changes as reduction of the sludge takes place. In cases of engine damage that may have resulted from poor maintenance, even Mobil 1 cannot remedy years of neglect.
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http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_FAQs.aspx#FAQs2
. . . . I'm currently using Mobil Clean High Mileage with good results. Why should I change to Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30, which costs more?
If your vehicle has been maintained well, Mobil Clean High Mileage represents an excellent choice. However, if you believe your engine may have sludge through less-than-adequate maintenance practices, Mobil 1 High Mileage may be the more suitable selection. Mobil 1 High Mileage helps reduce the sludge that other oils can leave behind which can result in extended engine life. For severe cases where sludge and other heavy deposits are present, shorter oil change intervals of 3,000 miles are recommended as clean-up proceeds.
I took pictures on the top end of my 98 Civic with 109k miles light varnish but no real sludge like my 93 Civic has which is currently in rise cycle 1 of Auto-Rx.
I will post 98 Civic pics when I get closer to the next oil change. Mobil is boasting rather dramatic cleaning recommending shorter OCI. Time will tell. My only reservation is the oil is a tad thick for the winters here. $20 for a 5 quart jug at China Mart is not a bad deal.
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Mobil 1 propaganda follows:
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAXXENPVLMOMobil_1_High_Mileage_Oil.asp
Features and Benefits
Mobil 1 High Mileage oils are made with a proprietary blend of high performance synthetic basestocks fortified with an additive system designed especially for higher mileage vehicles. Mobil 1 High Mileage oils are especially recommended for high mileage vehicles even those that have used lower quality conventional oils. (Note 1)
Note 1 -- If your engine has excessive sludge deposits due to less-than-adequate maintenance practices, Mobil 1 High Mileage can help by reducing the sludge left behind by conventional oils. For severe cases of sludge, short oil change intervals (3000 - 5000 miles) are recommended for the first 2-3 oil changes as reduction of the sludge takes place. In cases of engine damage that may have resulted from poor maintenance, even Mobil 1 cannot remedy years of neglect.
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http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_FAQs.aspx#FAQs2
. . . . I'm currently using Mobil Clean High Mileage with good results. Why should I change to Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30, which costs more?
If your vehicle has been maintained well, Mobil Clean High Mileage represents an excellent choice. However, if you believe your engine may have sludge through less-than-adequate maintenance practices, Mobil 1 High Mileage may be the more suitable selection. Mobil 1 High Mileage helps reduce the sludge that other oils can leave behind which can result in extended engine life. For severe cases where sludge and other heavy deposits are present, shorter oil change intervals of 3,000 miles are recommended as clean-up proceeds.
OK. To answer your question, Yes. I have first hand experience with CD2 oil treatment. And i had no noticeable results at all-- big zero.
So my experience led me to the same conclusion which Shelby and Tempest arrived at -- the CD2 stuff is really nothing special. People don't post much about it simply because it's not worth talking about.
There certainly is a far better product out there. And this board contains a lot of good information for people who are willing to read it.
I am currently running 2 bottles fo the cd2 yellow bottle stuff, in my 95 neon, nearing 3,000 miles and 6 months, 10w 30 shell oil. Directions say on back, a 2nd bottle may be necessary, so i felt bold enough, and added 2 at my last oil change.... NO real change in engine performace, only thing i noticed, was the oil seems not as dark as it should be... outside of that, i feel and think its a waist.
Im gunna get an oil annalysis done in the next 2 or 3weeks, with 2 bottles of this stuff, in shell 10w30 oil... EIll post soon for all
ISSUES!!!
“I'm new” / “I'm not new here”. “autorx is not exciting” but it is the first thing you cram at everyone here. Etc.
My post is no more ambiguous than some of your early posts here. I know because I took the time and used the "search button" to view a number of them.
I did not have time to do complete search when I made the original post on this subject. As I do have a life outside of this forum, hence the reason I have far fewer posts than most of the rest of you “shelby”. But I do have an interest in oils, filters, and engines in general and find the active community here of some very knowledgeable people an asset when I have a question or concern about something that I have less experience and knowledge of. I just don’t live here. I sometimes wish that I could but I can’t
I just wanted a quick answer from someone who had used the CD2 detergent in the past and what experience that they had with it. I knew that someone here had to have tried it or tested in the past and I only wanted to know what the consensus was with any links to back that consensus up it there were any at all…
ALL I needed was just a quick statement that this is total ---- and the linkage back to the posts that pointed that out in the past. Yes I suppose that I could have used the search button and spent a looong time looking for the answer but I had hoped that the people who knew the answer would help a guy out and point me in the right direction…
Gee and women wonder why men don’t ask for directions; well this is just an example of the kind of trouble we get into when we do!!!
I did not say I was going to use it or that I had a problem with my engine.
All that I ask is that since this forums name is “Oil additiveS” plural that there be legitimate discussions on all oil additives and not just autorx… The autorx people have their own forum on the autorx website where they can talk all autorx all the time. Just because I am not 100% sold on autorx does not mean that I should be shunned and ridiculed like I kill puppies for a living or something sheesh!!!
Shelby just do me a favor and just ignore my posts from now on and I will do the same for yours.
As far as the rest of you that replied thanks for the information on what I asked about!!!
Ziggy I will look forward to those oil analyses when you have them.
On the Turtle Wax website it says of CD-2 Oil Detergent
"Replenishes detergents and dispersants in your motor oil.
Cleans ALL internal engine parts.
Prevents rust and corrosion.
Restores pep and power.
Replenishes additives to worn oil."
Apparently it has detergents similar to what is already in motor oil, so it would supplement them. Maybe improve cleaning effects, but perhaps not to any significant degree.
I don't guess there is any harm in giving it a try. Problem with that and most additives is how to really tell if it has done anything?
"Replenishes detergents and dispersants in your motor oil.
Cleans ALL internal engine parts.
Prevents rust and corrosion.
Restores pep and power.
Replenishes additives to worn oil."
Apparently it has detergents similar to what is already in motor oil, so it would supplement them. Maybe improve cleaning effects, but perhaps not to any significant degree.
I don't guess there is any harm in giving it a try. Problem with that and most additives is how to really tell if it has done anything?
Yawn, you have a funny way of thanking me for all of the thoughful information I gave you about CD2. You also have a funny way of appoligizing for the fact you jumped down my throat with your response to my thoughtful answer to your question, as I did have first hand knowledge of CD2 as you probably now know. You were the one taking this thread down, for no reason than you apparently have an issue with Autorx. Have a nice day Mr Hat, I hope you represent your better in future postings but I kinda doubt it, you kind of remind me of someone...
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