Cat Filter Video

[durallymax]

Not too technical, but somewhat interesting, better than nothing.

I run them on our Cat stuff. Two of their fuel filters we use on the Cat stuff also work for some of our Cummins engines and the adapters I have to run them on our Duramax trucks due to the cost of the coalescer filter.

Their prices really are not too out of line on most of the filters especially when you consider their construction. I personally think they are a little overkill and feel bad throwing that big chunk of metal away but the price difference is small especially on machines still under warranty.

Im not promoting them or saying they are better, or use any magical techniques, just thought I'd share the video as there seemed to be a ton for all of the other filters.

http://www.cat.com/cda/files/3019141/7/LEDQ6225-05.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt58Lc_A1d0

 

[Donald]

And I thought this would be a funny post with a kitty cat.

 

[JPP]

Originally Posted By: Donald
And I thought this would be a funny post with a kitty cat.


*** Me too..........

JP

 

[Voltmaster]

If you can buy EBC on amazon for not too much cheaper i would do that.

I really like my EBC.

 

[zerosoma]

WHERE'S THE KITTIES?!?!?!?!

 

[BituminousCoal]

Thinking about trying the cat 244-4484 filter on my 7.3's after next oil change. Will do a uoa thereafter to determine if there is any benefit; I believe it's a 10 micron glass/synthetic fiber filter. The filter construction looks really good, but I still don't like the idea of plastic center tube - in hot oil over time I just don't feel it will hold up as well as metal, maintain strength and not deform at high temp with pressure exerted against it, but I'm sure they've tested it for normal use.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: BituminousCoal
The filter construction looks really good, but I still don't like the idea of plastic center tube - in hot oil over time I just don't feel it will hold up as well as metal, maintain strength and not deform at high temp with pressure exerted against it, but I'm sure they've tested it for normal use.


Per that Cat brochure link (PDF file), the nylon center tube is stronger than their steel one, and I'm sure it can take all the abuse it gets in use. As long as it doesn't have gigantic open windows in it so there is adequate media support (unlike some of the crummy eCore filters), I'd think it's OK.

 

[durallymax]

With a brand that big I have always been afraid of the "Blinders".

I still always tread lightly, but I haven't really seen an aspect that didn't impress me with them. I prefer some other brands to some of their products, but when it comes to QC, Service and parts, they have been outstanding.

Their attention to detail and cleanliness is very obvious. Every replacement hydraulic hose is mic'd, foamed, capped and tagged.

at the factory and after any major system repairs they run the machine through a kidney loop first.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: durallymax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt58Lc_A1d0


That's some pretty high tech filter designing and manufacturing there. Nice stuff.

 

[Texan4Life]

great video... anyone notice then gem @ 1:53 - 2:00 ?

I wonder if that is where wavy media comes from?

 

[dnewton3]

I liked the topic of the "spiral roving" and the way they wrapped the media to hold it steady. Makes sense to a degree; moving media may allow particulate to move through. But that could also be negated by wire-backed media, as seen in Ultra filters and many other top tier products.

It's yet another example of paying more to get more.

But the real question is this; does paying more result in more tangible benefits? All these features are great, but do they manifest into "better" wear results?

Once again I return to the topic of ROI. Inputs are great to discuss, but outputs are what matters for longevity.

I see excellent reasons to select a CAT filter, but would it make a difference in any of the applications I have? Only real DOE controlled testing would answer that; not a marketing link or 'tube video.

 

[cp3]

Wow, that is what an E-core should be! Nice, thanks for posting.

 

[mikefxu]

Originally Posted By: Voltmaster
If you can buy EBC on amazon for not too much cheaper i would do that.

I really like my EBC.

? Ekobrew Cup, Refillable Cup for Keurig K-cup Brewers, Brown, 1-Count ?

 

[circuitsmith]

I was really disappointed when I didn't see a dead cat inside the filter!

 

[OVERKILL]

FYI:

This company (AFSI) is a joint venture between Donaldson and CAT:

Quote:
Established in June 1986, Advanced Filtration Systems Inc. (AFSI) is a joint venture of Caterpillar Inc. and Donaldson Company, Inc. AFSI manufactures liquid filters using automated, computer integrated manufacturing (CIM) techniques. Highly automated production techniques enable AFSI to manufacture filters of the highest quality at competitive prices. The filters are used in lube, fuel, and hydraulic applications.

 

[durallymax]

Originally Posted By: dnewton3
I liked the topic of the "spiral roving" and the way they wrapped the media to hold it steady. Makes sense to a degree; moving media may allow particulate to move through. But that could also be negated by wire-backed media, as seen in Ultra filters and many other top tier products.

It's yet another example of paying more to get more.

But the real question is this; does paying more result in more tangible benefits? All these features are great, but do they manifest into "better" wear results?

Once again I return to the topic of ROI. Inputs are great to discuss, but outputs are what matters for longevity.

I see excellent reasons to select a CAT filter, but would it make a difference in any of the applications I have? Only real DOE controlled testing would answer that; not a marketing link or 'tube video.


For applications outside of their equipment I don't know if they are worth it for the average person.

The fuel filters for our Duramax trucks are just simple cheaper by a large enough margin to buy the CAT adapter and filter.

The $2 price difference in the big 1R-1808 Filter over a Napa equivelant isn't really a big enough difference to not run the CAT one.

Then there's warranty. Yes people will argue that you are supposed to be able to run any filter on there. But filters can have defects and issues. If it is a CAT filter that fails, its their own issue. Even if nothing is the filters fault, its still a person deciding what gets covered, having the Cat filter on there earns some brownie points with them.

 

[adamrc]

Awesome video! I've set up a CAT fuel filter system with a Nicktane adapter on my parent's 2007 Duramax. The CAT filers are constructed very well. The CAT filters are much easier to change vs the factory GM filters and are much cheaper as well.