Castrol 5w-40 Edge at Walmart

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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Why not run a quality, true synthetic 30 multigrade
Like a Motul X-max?
I can answer that. It's because for half the price or less you can get an oil at Walmart that has equivalent performance. Can you prove otherwise?
You're always asking people to prove things. Let's see your actual proof that the cheaper oils have equivalent performance. Price is not a factor. And I'm talking about actual figures, such as additive numbers when the oil is new and after oil changes and also TBN numbers before and after.

That's easy, I prove it by reading the label or the PDS and noting they meet many of the same specifications and carry similar approvals. Do you have another indicator of performance?

These are the actual "figures."
 
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Why not run a quality, true synthetic 30 multigrade
Like a Motul X-max?
I can answer that. It's because for half the price or less you can get an oil at Walmart that has equivalent performance. Can you prove otherwise?
You're always asking people to prove things. Let's see your actual proof that the cheaper oils have equivalent performance. Price is not a factor. And I'm talking about actual figures, such as additive numbers when the oil is new and after oil changes and also TBN numbers before and after.

That's easy, I prove it by reading the label or the PDS and noting they meet many of the same specifications and carry similar approvals. Do you have another indicator of performance?

These are the actual "figures."


I want to see proof. Saying they "meet many of the same specifications" and "carry similar approvals" is a cop-out and you know it. Show us the figures. "Similar" is not proof of as good as or better.
 
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Find it yourself, PowerSurge.


Translation: I have absolutely no hard data to back up my claims.
 
Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
Originally Posted by kschachn
Find it yourself, PowerSurge.

I wonder who he was before. It's obvious he isn't new.


Negative. Just well-studied.
 
Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
I wonder who he was before. It's obvious he isn't new.

Could be, or a new one. Hard to tell yet.
 
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by kschachn
Find it yourself, PowerSurge.


Translation: I have absolutely no hard data to back up my claims.

So why not bring your own data to the table then?

Having an attitude like that won't get you far.
 
Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by kschachn
Find it yourself, PowerSurge.


Translation: I have absolutely no hard data to back up my claims.

So why not bring your own data to the table then?


Because he's the one making the claim. Make the claim. Provide the data. Sounds reasonable.
 
Originally Posted by kschachn
FordBroncoVWJeta said:
I wonder who he was before. It's obvious he isn't new.

Could be, or a new one. Hard to tell yet.[/quote

My god this is such a steady cop out around here, not one week goes by or a few posts, where someone says something you don't agree with or pushes back...and you accuse people of being someone who was under here on a previous name.

Lol. The attitudes and childish responses when some of you hear or see things that you don't want to believe is actually hysterical.

If I had a dollar for every post that just said "have any proof" [censored] I would own my own my own private island.
 
Originally Posted by domer10
Originally Posted by kschachn
FordBroncoVWJeta said:
I wonder who he was before. It's obvious he isn't new.

Could be, or a new one. Hard to tell yet.[/quote

My god this is such a steady cop out around here, not one week goes by or a few posts, where someone says something you don't agree with or pushes back...and you accuse people of being someone who was under here on a previous name.

Lol. The attitudes and childish responses when some of you hear or see things that you don't want to believe is actually hysterical.

If I had a dollar for every post that just said "have any proof" [censored] I would own my own my own private island.

A lot of times old members come back just to stir the pot. Doesn't seem to be uncommon on this board at all.
 
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
I wonder who he was before. It's obvious he isn't new.

Could be, or a new one. Hard to tell yet.




I see his counterpart disappeared overnight. Must have went and gone Gearhead on us.
 
Originally Posted by domer10
My god this is such a steady cop out around here, not one week goes by or a few posts, where someone says something you don't agree with or pushes back...and you accuse people of being someone who was under here on a previous name.

Lol. The attitudes and childish responses when some of you hear or see things that you don't want to believe is actually hysterical.

If I had a dollar for every post that just said "have any proof" [censored] I would own my own my own private island.

My goodness there domer10, I wasn't the one who accused it, FordBroncoVWJeta was the one. Why don't you address him instead of me?

You need to back off your hysteria with me please. And not everyone on here believes that YouTube videos, Amazon reviews and random unsubstantiated testimonials constitute proof. I know you do however.
 
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Why not run a quality, true synthetic 30 multigrade
Like a Motul X-max?

I can answer that. It's because for half the price or less you can get an oil at Walmart that has equivalent performance. Can you prove otherwise?


You're always asking people to prove things. Let's see your actual proof that the cheaper oils have equivalent performance. Price is not a factor. And I'm talking about actual figures, such as additive numbers when the oil is new and after oil changes and also TBN numbers before and after.

I take issue with the fact that Castrol is "cheaper." It's less expensive because it is available en masse. It's made here, refined here, and well known here. If Walmart carried Motul and it was a domestic product it would cost about the same as Castrol.
 
Between the hysteria and the additive pumper and the other few that popped in this weekend, it's been a busy one putting people on ignore. At least that way I can keep track of who is serious and who is not.

I also suspect that these are not all separate posters but one with multiple identities.
 
Originally Posted by PimTac
Between the hysteria and the additive pumper and the other few that popped in this weekend, it's been a busy one putting people on ignore. At least that way I can keep track of who is serious and who is not.

I also suspect that these are not all separate posters but one with multiple identities.



Yeah, GHT is back very often it seems.

Lots of new "keyboard cowboys" joining lately. My ignore lost is really long too
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Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Originally Posted by PimTac
Between the hysteria and the additive pumper and the other few that popped in this weekend, it's been a busy one putting people on ignore. At least that way I can keep track of who is serious and who is not.

I also suspect that these are not all separate posters but one with multiple identities.



Yeah, GHT is back very often it seems.

Lots of new "keyboard cowboys" joining lately. My ignore lost is really long too
wink.gif



Yes it seems like September and just after. Remember the rumble about disturbing BITOG that was spotted on another forum. That alluded to doing the very thing we are now seeing.
 
Originally Posted by domer10
Originally Posted by kschachn
FordBroncoVWJeta said:
I wonder who he was before. It's obvious he isn't new.

Could be, or a new one. Hard to tell yet.[/quote

My god this is such a steady cop out around here, not one week goes by or a few posts, where someone says something you don't agree with or pushes back...and you accuse people of being someone who was under here on a previous name.

Lol. The attitudes and childish responses when some of you hear or see things that you don't want to believe is actually hysterical.

If I had a dollar for every post that just said "have any proof" [censored] I would own my own my own private island.


One thing I've learned in my almost 50 years is that many people don't like to be open to new information. It scares them and makes them uncomfortable. And now since they can't show hard data to back up their claims they resort to accusing someone of being on the forum before. Lol.

I'm not loyal to any brand of oil. If someone shows me hard data, I'll be more than happy to change. It shouldn't be about being right just for the sake of it.
 
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
One thing I've learned in my almost 50 years is that many people don't like to be open to new information.


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