Car trouble after oil change

[fpny]

My daughter had a 99 Honda Accord with 5 speed manual transmittion with 105K miles on it. She just got an oil change last weekend and yesterday morning (Thanksgiving day), when she shift from one gear to the next and step on the gas, the rpm went up but the car won't move much. It did that for about a minute or so and then she can smell something burning coming out from the engine. She stop the car on the side of the road and the car won't move at all even she puts it in gear (any gears). Almost seems like the clutch just burn out or is not engaging at all. The clutch cable seems to feel normal when she sptep on the clutch. We had the car towled to a garage and they won't be looking at it until next Monday because of the holidays . I didn't think there is anything to do with the oil change. Did anyone have any ideas on what had happened to the car? I just wanted to know what to expect next week when they call back. Thanks for you inputs.

 

[ITSMR2U]

Bad rear main seal = oil on the clutch?

 

[Rand]

Well the obivious answer is clutch trouble.
not so obivious is why it suddenly failed.
normally they get weak and start slipping then fail.

Maybe they grossly overfilled the engine oil or something
and it puked out?
no guesses though really.

 

[oilboy123]

I concur with the guys. You should see signs that the clutch is going. Should not just be sudden.......
When they give the estimate go in and tell them you want to see what the problem is that they diagnosed.

If oil got on the clutch it should show on the bell housing of the trans.

 

[55Test]

Probably drained the transmission oil instead of what was in the oilpan

 

[Eddie]

I'm with 55. Was this a quicky lub place like Jiffy??

 

[fpny]

No, it is the local Honda dealer that did the oil change and she had been going to them for the last couple of years for oil change. The interesting thing is she just drove the car the night before and everything is fine. She did not notice anything differnet before it fails the next day. She also said she checked the oil level after the oil change and the level is at the full mark on the dipstick when she checked it.

 

[wn1998]

I think the clutch just went out. I had this happen on my jeep about a month ago. I didn't get any warning and it showed no signs of failing "slipping". I bet all it needs is a new clutch and she will be back on the road.

Only bad part is this will probably run you $700-900.

 

[daman]

Sounds like the pressure plate just failed...

 

[Quest]

It's coincidental.

Clutch just went out, simple as that. Draining MT gearbox will only causes wear and tear, and you can still drive somewhat.

Overfilling Engine has nothing to do with MT gearbox at all for we are talking about 2 separate unit here.

Get a new clutch pack and go from there.

 

[Mr Nice]

A Honda clutch should easily last more than 150K miles, but I notice some people use the clucth as a 'brake' and tend to wear it out sooner.

Most quick lube places don't know where the drain plug for a Honda 5 speed trans is.

 

[toocrazy2yoo]

I vote clutch, too. We here may get 200K out of a clutch, but most folks see 100K and that's it.. She may also have broken splines on the pressure plate, but I bet the disk itself is toast if she could smell it..

Teach her short-shifting, 1-3-5. Most situations, it's plenty, and takes 2/5 the wear off the clutch, especially if she's not handy at getting off the pedal quickly when it engages...

 

[javacontour]

If the oil is not overfull as you indicate, then it's likely just a bad coincidence.

I'm sorry.

 

[c502cid]

Probably not a clutch per se, however I'll bet a buck the slave cylinder gave up the ghost. Coincidence it happened with the oil change.

 

[javacontour]

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Probably not a clutch per se, however I'll bet a buck the slave cylinder gave up the ghost. Coincidence it happened with the oil change.

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Wouldn't the failure mode of the master or slave cylinder be that it would be tough to shift, not clutch slipping?

I suppose if the fluid got on the clutch you may have some issue. However, it's been my experience that when these parts fail, it's tough to shift and you have to "pump up" the clutch to get it to work.

 

[pajim17057]

Female+Manual=

Female+Automatic=

 

[Drew99GT]

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Female+Manual=

Female+Automatic=

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Oh man that's good stuff! I needed a good laugh pajim. Good math lesson for today

 

[Lonnie]

If the oil is at the full mark the oil change is not your problem. If it was way over full you have other problems, too. I'd look at the clutch and clutch hydraulic linkage. I used to work on British cars, a long time ago and the clutch test was to put the car in high gear and try to pull away from a stop. If the engine dies you're ok, anything else is a problem.

 

[Drew99GT]

If she can still shift gears fine, then the hydraulics are likely fine. Sounds like she done burned up a clutch! If it's on the verge of going but not showing outright signs, all it takes is holding it on an incline with the clutch to burn up the last bit of material on the disk and pressure plate.

 

[fpny]

I will know by tomorrow. The garage will call me after they looked at the car. This is my 4th Accord. They seem to make the quality cheaper and cheaper. My previous two Accords (both 1989) clutch last a lot longer. They both have the original clutch on them when we traded them in (one had 145K and the other had 187K miles on them) for a 1999 and a 2000. Just like everything else, price keep going up and quality keep going down. Pretty sad if you ask me.