Can anyone add any insight to this filter topic?
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If someone is seeing Baldwin filter disintegrate I would think twice before using them. Not many filters are good beyond say 15K miles. But Donaldson is one of the best and if they say to go to 50K I would believe them. Just because someone makes a good filter such as a NAPA Gold, does not mean it will last 50K miles.
IDK.
For most of here, a 35K oil filter life means very little.
Baldwin makes good quality oil filters, but if I had to run a filter 35K+, I guess that Baldwin would not be my choice.
Since most of us here consider 10K a long drain, I'd say that a Baldwin oil filter would be fine as we would use it.
For most of here, a 35K oil filter life means very little.
Baldwin makes good quality oil filters, but if I had to run a filter 35K+, I guess that Baldwin would not be my choice.
Since most of us here consider 10K a long drain, I'd say that a Baldwin oil filter would be fine as we would use it.
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My simple explanation is this:
Any of the big brand names (as noted in that link) are quality units. But, all products can have a weak link at times; nothing is perfect. In general, I would not hesitate to use any of the major brand name products when utilized in the properly spec'd application for the recommended operational parameters.
However, if one ventures off the reservation, then one is on his/her own. You need to be really sure of what you're doing when you experiment.
Any of the big brand names (as noted in that link) are quality units. But, all products can have a weak link at times; nothing is perfect. In general, I would not hesitate to use any of the major brand name products when utilized in the properly spec'd application for the recommended operational parameters.
However, if one ventures off the reservation, then one is on his/her own. You need to be really sure of what you're doing when you experiment.
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dnewton3
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Hey - wait a minute ...
Does that make me an internet schlubb?
Does that make me an internet schlubb?
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I'd believe it if I saw a TSB from Detroit Diesel.
sorry but filters don't disintegrate.. not even the china ones or the fram orange can that has a zillion miles on it.
if there is a TSB against Baldwin by DD, would be interesting to know why.
sorry but filters don't disintegrate.. not even the china ones or the fram orange can that has a zillion miles on it.
if there is a TSB against Baldwin by DD, would be interesting to know why.
We've used Baldwin filters on our diesel truck engines for 30 years and never had one fail. We don't open every removed filter, but a used oil analysis is done at every oil change. I'm sure that a Baldwin filter could fail, but not too often. They are top quality filters that are used by many heavy duty engine operators.
Originally Posted By: Texan4Life
sorry but filters don't disintegrate..
Not so. here is one I cut open. the glue was powder. It fell apart as I cut it.
In many brands there are different levels of service, different materials resistant to more heat, etc. I see a lot of filters with hardened valves after a few thousand miles.
sorry but filters don't disintegrate..
Not so. here is one I cut open. the glue was powder. It fell apart as I cut it.
In many brands there are different levels of service, different materials resistant to more heat, etc. I see a lot of filters with hardened valves after a few thousand miles.
Originally Posted By: widman
Not so. here is one I cut open. the glue was powder. It fell apart as I cut it.
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I think he meant if everything else is normal, a quality filter will just not dissolve.
If you got coolant leaking into the oil or running too long on the OCI, filters are rated to take it for so long and something has to give. Not really the filters fault in this case.
What is the story on that filter pic? What is the brand? That looks nasty and looks like more problems than just filter coming apart.
Not trying to kick on your country, but what comes into Central and South America can be anybody's guess from a quality part to a counterfeit.
Not so. here is one I cut open. the glue was powder. It fell apart as I cut it.
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I think he meant if everything else is normal, a quality filter will just not dissolve.
If you got coolant leaking into the oil or running too long on the OCI, filters are rated to take it for so long and something has to give. Not really the filters fault in this case.
What is the story on that filter pic? What is the brand? That looks nasty and looks like more problems than just filter coming apart.
Not trying to kick on your country, but what comes into Central and South America can be anybody's guess from a quality part to a counterfeit.
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Not trying to kick on your country, but what comes into Central and South America can be anybody's guess from a quality part to a counterfeit.
I could be mistaken, but if I remember correctly, that is one of the reason Richard's in business in the first place - to provide quality oils and parts where poor quality ones are more common.
Not trying to kick on your country, but what comes into Central and South America can be anybody's guess from a quality part to a counterfeit.
I could be mistaken, but if I remember correctly, that is one of the reason Richard's in business in the first place - to provide quality oils and parts where poor quality ones are more common.
Originally Posted By: Garak
I could be mistaken, but if I remember correctly, that is one of the reason Richard's in business in the first place - to provide quality oils and parts where poor quality ones are more common.
I am aware of what he does. I am also aware that many of his customer bring in vehicles that have not been in his exclusive care 100% and/or disregard his recommendations to brand and weights of oils.
Hence my additional questions on what he has shown. Empirical evidence does do always tell the whole story.
I could be mistaken, but if I remember correctly, that is one of the reason Richard's in business in the first place - to provide quality oils and parts where poor quality ones are more common.
I am aware of what he does. I am also aware that many of his customer bring in vehicles that have not been in his exclusive care 100% and/or disregard his recommendations to brand and weights of oils.
Hence my additional questions on what he has shown. Empirical evidence does do always tell the whole story.
Originally Posted By: Hootbro
I am aware of what he does. I am also aware that many of his customer bring in vehicles that have not been in his exclusive care 100% and/or disregard his recommendations to brand and weights of oils.
Yep, that's pretty much my guess, too. With respect to the filter, for all we know, it sat on someone's shelf for a decade or more before it was installed. I can't imagine that being good for the glue.
I am aware of what he does. I am also aware that many of his customer bring in vehicles that have not been in his exclusive care 100% and/or disregard his recommendations to brand and weights of oils.
Yep, that's pretty much my guess, too. With respect to the filter, for all we know, it sat on someone's shelf for a decade or more before it was installed. I can't imagine that being good for the glue.
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