By-Pass filter benefits

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I am looking at the Amsoil By-Pass filter setup for a 1998 Ford Escort and new Mazda Protege. Are there any benefits for a passenger vehicle such as these?

Any thoughts on this set-up or comparable set-ups?
 
On a Ford Escort?? Where would I find one?

What are the benefits? I mean if I run a decent oil (Amsoil, Schaeffer's, M1, etc) and a decent filter (K&N, Amsoil, Bosch, PureOne, etc) will a bypass filter give me much benefit?
 
What it really depends on is how long you plan on keeping the car(s), your driving habits and your oil change habits. If you want to hang onto the cars a long time, you do extended highway driving, and want nice long oil change intervals a by-pass set up would be beneficial by adding oil volume, filtering out smaller particles.

Contrary some popular belief and without haggling 1 micron vs. 2 microns, a by-pass filter does not stop wear, only may slow it a bit by catching particles the main oil filter doesn't. As for these smaller particles (particles that pass the normal filter) causing wear, sure some very small amount of wear.
 
What if I change every 5,000 miles?

If I did wantt extended changes, is the Amsoil set-up good? What is the deal with that Tri-Guard deal?
 
One thing to consider is that unlike full-flow filters, bypass filters can be any size the manufacturer chooses. So if you go with a bypass like AMSOIL's or OilGuard's (the one I have), you're sort of hitching your wagon to the company in that you commit to buying replacement filter elements from them. If they go out of business (not likely with the above candidates) or discontinue your product, you may be up a creek. This is one reason some folks like TP filters better; once you buy it, you can choose from any suitable roll of TP.
 
Hi,
Pablo - your comments concerning engine wear with certain by-pass filters are interesting

Centrifugal by pass units are indeed well known for preventing wear from injector clearance setting requirements. Their ability to contain Many SAE papers tell this story too. Scania and Mack have used them for many many years

Some makers are at present testing a cleanable centrifuge with stainless steel full flow filter elements for 20> "items". I have two here waiting to be installed

Mann-Hummell took over the "Spinner" branded units from Federal-Mogul-Glacier some time ago. Mann-Hummell is an OEM supplier to Porsche, MB and etc. no small pup this one!!!

Regards
 
I'm running an Amsoil dual by-pass filter now on my Ford truck. This is the second vehicle I have run one on the the first perfromed as promised.

The biggest benefit is easy oil changes. You need only to change the oil in the filters, and not the oil in the pan. In my case the filters are easy to get to, but that may not be the case on an Escort or Protege.

The second benefit is the reduced wear. The claim is significant reduced wear, tests have shown it and my results were spectacular. You can drive an engine 150K or more with out a by-pass, but your engine will run more like it did when it was new with it.

The third benefit is that it won't cost any more in the long run because you only have to replace 4 quarts of oil and 4 filters a year. Also, it's easier to run an expensive oil like Amsoil when you only have to replace 4 quarts every year.

Besides that, your oil is clean all the time. You never drive that last 500 miles on dirty oil before the oil change.

On the down side? First, Were are you going to mount this big dual filter rig? Second, the up front costs require you to keep the vehicle for a while to get to the break even point. Third, it is one more area to watch for oil leaks.

By-pass filters are best suited for large vehicles with large oil capacities. It's tough to run Amsoil in a truck that takes 6.5 quarts of oil, or a semi that requires 20 quarts.

If you can't find a place to mount a dual by-pass a better choice would be a Trasko filter which has the dual filtering media in one filter that mounts where your standard oil filter mounts. I haven't tried it, but it is the same technology. The filter is about $70 and $10 each change after that. Thanks for asking.
 
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Originally posted by dwmcqueen:
How tough is the install???

Depends on the install. I installed it on my truck in about eight hours total. That was about three hours for the bracket, and five hours for the filter. Those who are handy can do most things I do in half the time, and I think I can cut my time quite a bit now that I've done it once.

I will admit to spending almost that much time just trying to find a good place to mount it. There is a lot of plastic on today's card and trucks.
 
Is it possible that there may not be any space? I looked on my Protege5 once, and there is, I swear, two cubic inches of free space total....

Is OilGuard cheaper than Amsoil?
 
It's very likely you won't find space. You need to find three things in the same space. Space for the filter, metal to mount it to, and a good route to run the oil lines.
 
Thanks for the comments...looks like I will be staying away from this for now, since the room will probably be an issue....
 
It can be pretty tricky. I have an OilGuard EPS-20, which is about the size of a coffee can, on a Toyota Matrix, which is about Protege5-size. I got lucky in that the battery sits on a strong metal bracket, and there's a lot of space under the bracket where I could hang the filter. It even had holes in just the right places. Only problem is I had to get under the car and slice off a corner of the plastic rock-guard with a hacksaw in order to be able to reach in and change the filter.

I wouldn't be that concerned about routing the oil lines, I'm sure you could find a way. Before you give up, though, check out the EPS-10 at OilGuard's website. It has one of the smallest footprints of any bypass filter. I took a look at a Protege5 engine compartment photo; it was hard to tell because they'd taken the stock airbox out, but it looked like there might be room near the battery or near the driver's side headlight. Remember that these are pressurized and can be mounted in any position.

Edit: Now that I think about it, as long as you're messing around in there, you could put in a short ram or CAI, and then you'd definitely have space for a bypass filter.
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[ July 21, 2003, 02:17 AM: Message edited by: alexiskai ]
 
My suggestion for your Escort is to skip the idea of a By-Pass because it is not cost effective in anything less than 14 quarts. You can get a product like XL-7500 that will protect for six months or 7,500 miles or 12,000 kms. or 6 months whichever comes first. Can't beat that in any catagory.
 
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Originally posted by dwmcqueen:
I am looking at the Amsoil By-Pass filter setup for a 1998 Ford Escort and new Mazda Protege. Are there any benefits for a passenger vehicle such as these?

Any thoughts on this set-up or comparable set-ups?


A bypass oil filter is a good idea if you plan on owning that car for many hundreds of thousands of miles and then you transfer the filter assembly to your next car.

My problem with the Amsoil dual bypass oil filter is in order to force oil through the bypass filter this Amsoil unit creates a restriction that lowers oil pressure to the engine:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000513;p=5

They seem to work, but I'd rather have an Oilguard or Amsoil single bypass filter.


Ken
 
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