Bringing back the Neanderthals

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Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
But do we consider them human? They certainly are a member of the homo genus, but so far any discussion about the treatment of other homo subspecies has been moot; if we're face to face with a living member of a different species of our genus, it becomes much more difficult. And if we open that door, how far do we go? If a person believes that we have a common ancestor in the ape, are we forced to give them the same rights as homo sapiens?

And would this open the door to bringing back other species of the homo genus?

I'll just say this: Given the extremely simplistic moral landscape of modern humanity, I suspect a new Neanderthal would have to be considered human for most purposes, just as a matter of practical expedience.

Besides, if there's even a discussion about whether a totipotent stem cell is a human being for moral purposes, I would imagine a fully grown being of the genus Homo would have a pretty strong case for the same distinction.


I don't have time to answer your post in detail as I have to watch the kardashians but what do you mean by simplistic?
 
We already had the TV show "Jersey Shore", I think science has already run far far too amok in terms of stabilizing extinct species of neanderthals.

Edit: clarkflower beat me to the joke...with pictures, lol.
 
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Don't you see the danger, John, inherent in what you're doing here? Genetic power is the most awesome force the planet's ever seen, but you wield it like a kid that's found his dad's gun.
 
Originally Posted By: Stelth
There is tons of stem cell research going on, and a lot of good has come from it. Of course, it mostly involves adult stem cells.


As it should, as that makes immensely more sense than trying to adapt another person's cells into the sick.
 
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: MolaKule


Yes, where do we draw the line here? It sounds unethical to me.


Agreed. Man trying to be God....has already proven to be a big failure.

The medications that saved my life and those of my friends beg to differ.

This is complex stuff. You're completely right to suggest that reaching too far opens the door to disaster. At the same time, holding back entirely isn't the answer.
 
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: MolaKule


Yes, where do we draw the line here? It sounds unethical to me.


Agreed. Man trying to be God....has already proven to be a big failure.


Man "trying to be god" is an ongoing process that has lasted as long as free will has; complete with successes and failures.

Originally Posted By: Clevy
And honestly why would it be a good idea to resurrect this species. So we can keep him/her locked in a cage for study. Doesn't sound like much of a life to me.


OK, so you've never seen the "Unfrozen Cavemen Lawyer" skits from Saturday Night Live in the 80's/ 90's. The neaderthal reboot, sir, is going to be drafted high in the first round by the Lions; eventually becoming their general manager.
 
What does this say about the mom-to-be?

Dr: "We would like to inseminate you so that you will give birth to something between a human and a monkey...not sure how it will turn out, or how 'it' will be treated when/if it lives...but hey a chance to be part of medical history (wink, wink)."

Woman: "Sure. I never plan on having a normal life afterwards anyway, I will be regarded as a freak, looked upon with disdain everywhere I go, never to be loved by another man for the rest of my days. I don't really care how it may harm me internally or affect my health for the rest of my life either. But lets get tot the nitty gritty....How much does it pay?"

Where has medical science gone. This is Frankenstein hack work at best.
 
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Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
What does this say about the mom-to-be?
Dr: "We would like to inseminate you so that you will give birth to something between a human and a monkey...not sure how it will turn out, or how 'it' will be treated when/if it lives...but hey a chance to be part of medical history (wink, wink)."
Woman: "Sure. I never plan on having a normal life afterwards anyway, I will be regarded as a freak, looked upon with disdain everywhere I go, never to be loved by another man for the rest of my days. I don't really care how it may harm me internally or affect my health for the rest of my life either. But lets get tot the nitty gritty....How much does it pay?"

Where has medical science gone. This is Frankenstein hack work at best.



There would be women standing in line to do it. I hear that Octomom's porno check ran out and she is back on welfare. She'd be the first in line to be the mom.
 
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: MolaKule


Yes, where do we draw the line here? It sounds unethical to me.


Agreed. Man trying to be God....has already proven to be a big failure.


I never heard of any complain from the churches about genetically modified food with bio-toxin. So technically this is not any different from genetically modified monkey, if you believe that homo sapiens is really the only man created by God.
 
Put a Neanderthal in a business suit with good grooming, and he'd walk down the street unnoticed.

We have to consider the 95% that is 'artists conception', and discount much of it.
 
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Put a Neanderthal in a business suit with good grooming, and he'd walk down the street unnoticed.




Better yet, put one in Congress and he'd probably become President in 4 years!
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Put a Neanderthal in a business suit with good grooming, and he'd walk down the street unnoticed.




Better yet, put one in Congress and he'd probably become President in 4 years!


LOL
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Put a Neanderthal in a business suit with good grooming, and he'd walk down the street unnoticed.




Better yet, put one in Congress and he'd probably become President in 4 years!


Bingo.
 
Originally Posted By: Kruse
..... I hear that Octomom's porno check ran out and she is back on welfare. She'd be the first in line to be the mom.


I think they only want one Neanderthal, not a Litter!!!
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New slaves?
Its either this, or robotics.
Invest wisely.

(We are nothing more than Indentured servants)
 
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