Bring my own oil or just let the dealership do it?

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Originally Posted by Malo83
Originally Posted by hallstevenson
Amazing so far - not one vote against letting a "stealership" do an oil change. I guess using synthetic oil and cheap price is the magic combination for folks here...


No Thanks, i'll do my own oil changes
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My dealership charges $99.00/for three oil changes using Valvoline Conventional oil/OEM Filter . My 2017 Santa Fe XL doesn't require synthetic. I'm not crawling under the car for $33.00........So yea-let them do it.
 
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Originally Posted by CKN
Originally Posted by Malo83
Originally Posted by hallstevenson
Amazing so far - not one vote against letting a "stealership" do an oil change. I guess using synthetic oil and cheap price is the magic combination for folks here...


No Thanks, i'll do my own oil changes
cheers3.gif

Pennz Platinum, Wix/Napa



My dealership charges $99.00/for three oil changes using Valvoline Conventional oil/OEM Filter . My 2017 Santa Fe XL doesn't require synthetic. I'm not crawling under the car for $33.00........So yea-let them do it.

The cost is the least of the issues. Going to the dealership takes a lot of time and I don't care to have minimum wage grease monkeys fooling with my vehicle.
 
Originally Posted by SatinSilver
A 55 gallon drum of Total Quartz 9000 5w30 runs $1004 shipped to my address. If you take the normal price of a single oil change of $65 - oil cost - filter cost = gross profit of around $30. So I doubt they're running a scam as mentioned above.

A 55 gallon drum of Mobil 5w30 runs $1742 on Amazon so quite a difference. Although from shop owners on here I've heard of them getting Service Pro synthetic (Valvoline) for $3.50/quart.



He takes 6 qts, so at $1004 / 55 / 4 * 6 = $27 for the oil. figure a $3 filter so $30 for materials. At the $50 special deal price that's $20 for labor + overhead (service writer, oil change bay, cleanup and disposal, etc). That's pretty thin profit. Dealerships are not known for thin profit on purpose.

Walmart charges $50 for "featured full synthetic oil" which means the company that could wiggle the lowest cost from. For walmart the oil change can be a loss leader since you sit in the store while the oil is changed so you have the opportunity to shop while waiting. Walmart is willing the run a bit thin on the oil change profit to get pull through revenue from the wait times.

The dealership deal just smells fishy to me. No matter if my suspicions are right or wrong, the oil going in the car will be good and up to specifications and probably synthetic or synblend. More than adequate for a 5K run.
 
The dealer gets a far better deal than $1000.
So those figures are skewed
Plus they get the opportunity to soak you elsewhere.
That is where you find the profit.
 
I doubt the dealership is using TOTAL, back when I had my Hyundai my dealership told me they used nothing but what the manufacturer fill is. Quakerstate. I never once seen a drum or empty container from Quakerstate always was valvoline or some random no name 5w30 branded drum.
 
Originally Posted by Roger7142
Dealer says if I brought my own oil to bring 6 quarts for a change. The capacity listed in the manual states 6.87 quarts for a change.

To Tiger682, I am assuming that if I brought my own oil that they would deduct their oil costs and just charge me for the labor and filter only.


Around here if you bring own oil in they charge 29.99 so lets say your oil + oil filter and 30 is more than likely than there price which includes everything. Some include filter and others don't as labor is profit not oil or filter
 
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Their synthetic blend oil change package sells for 3 changes for $99.95. If you think my OCI of 5000 miles is reasonable, maybe I just go with this??
 
^ I'd just use the syn-blend oil deal esp for 5k changes. You can always upgrade later if you want esp if you like the service there.
 
Originally Posted by Zee09
The dealer gets a far better deal than $1000.
So those figures are skewed

Very true - the $1000 price is for any Joe off the street. A dealer is probably paying $750 or less (buy more, price goes down) for that same drum.
 
Originally Posted by danez_yoda
Originally Posted by SatinSilver
A 55 gallon drum of Total Quartz 9000 5w30 runs $1004 shipped to my address. If you take the normal price of a single oil change of $65 - oil cost - filter cost = gross profit of around $30. So I doubt they're running a scam as mentioned above.

A 55 gallon drum of Mobil 5w30 runs $1742 on Amazon so quite a difference. Although from shop owners on here I've heard of them getting Service Pro synthetic (Valvoline) for $3.50/quart.



He takes 6 qts, so at $1004 / 55 / 4 * 6 = $27 for the oil. figure a $3 filter so $30 for materials. At the $50 special deal price that's $20 for labor + overhead (service writer, oil change bay, cleanup and disposal, etc). That's pretty thin profit. Dealerships are not known for thin profit on purpose.

Walmart charges $50 for "featured full synthetic oil" which means the company that could wiggle the lowest cost from. For walmart the oil change can be a loss leader since you sit in the store while the oil is changed so you have the opportunity to shop while waiting. Walmart is willing the run a bit thin on the oil change profit to get pull through revenue from the wait times.

The dealership deal just smells fishy to me. No matter if my suspicions are right or wrong, the oil going in the car will be good and up to specifications and probably synthetic or synblend. More than adequate for a 5K run.


Yeah, but they get $150 up front and get to bank on it if you total/sell/trade the vehicle or just plain forget anytime in the next 10-20k miles, and if they don't then they have 2 more guaranteed shots at pushing other services and maintenance items, as well as you waiting adjacent to their showroom. How many stories have you heard about people getting a new vehicle after "just being at the dealership for service"?
 
Originally Posted by hatt
Originally Posted by CKN
Originally Posted by Malo83
Originally Posted by hallstevenson
Amazing so far - not one vote against letting a "stealership" do an oil change. I guess using synthetic oil and cheap price is the magic combination for folks here...


No Thanks, i'll do my own oil changes
cheers3.gif

Pennz Platinum, Wix/Napa



My dealership charges $99.00/for three oil changes using Valvoline Conventional oil/OEM Filter . My 2017 Santa Fe XL doesn't require synthetic. I'm not crawling under the car for $33.00........So yea-let them do it.

The cost is the least of the issues. Going to the dealership takes a lot of time and I don't care to have minimum wage grease monkeys fooling with my vehicle.



As I said-I'm not crawling under the car for $33.00. And with dozens of oil changes done at different dealerships-which includes GMC, Chevrolet, and Hyundai dealerships I have NEVER HAD AN ISSUE.
 
The only issue I have is at the dealership is when I walk around a GMC salesman will ask if I am interested in "upgrade" to a Sierra.
 
I'm in the "wow that sounds great but are you sure you're getting Total Quartz?" club.


Originally Posted by SatinSilver
A 55 gallon drum of Total Quartz 9000 5w30 runs $1004 shipped to my address. If you take the normal price of a single oil change of $65 - oil cost - filter cost = gross profit of around $30. So I doubt they're running a scam as mentioned above.

A 55 gallon drum of Mobil 5w30 runs $1742 on Amazon so quite a difference. Although from shop owners on here I've heard of them getting Service Pro synthetic (Valvoline) for $3.50/quart.



Wow, the M1 55g price is the same as the Amsoil SS 55g price...
 
Originally Posted by CKN



As I said-I'm not crawling under the car for $33.00. And with dozens of oil changes done at different dealerships-which includes GMC, Chevrolet, and Hyundai dealerships I have NEVER HAD AN ISSUE.


How do you know no issues exist?
Were you there to witness the oil change?
Are you sure they never took a rag to your old oil filter and made it look new again?
Are you sure the stated oil on the receipt is really what they used?
Are you sure they never reinserted the oil pan bolt, prior to all the old, used oil being drained?
Are you sure you received the correct weight / viscosity?

I can do three oil changes in the amount of time wasted driving to and back from dealerships - plus the amount of time hanging around, waiting for the service to be completed.
 
Originally Posted by Dallas69
Paranoid today a little?



I'd say no. Because the things he mentions are concerns and have happened before. There are several media undercover shows, where the oil was not even changed, or they were charged for syn and got bulk dino. Over torqued/stripped pan bolts etc. Probably less of a chance at a dealer vs a chain lube outfit, but i all depends on how the shop is run.
 
*I will do my own oil changes - even if I'm so old I need help up and down on my creeper ! ... I have had oil changes done on various vehicles at the dealer and end up with WAY over torqued oil change plugs plus the last time I got my Sonata oil changed I had 5 of the 10 oil pan cover plate 10mm bolts missing - upon closer inspection I noticed the oil technician put the 5 oil pan cover bolts back on in a zig zag pattern to save time (he figured I didn't need all 10 just 5 !) ... By the way this is the 2nd oil change as I did the first one after 1500 miles . I say when you do a simple procedure like changing your own oil YOU know exactly what went into the engine , the oil drain plug torque pressure and as a bonus - you get all 10 of your oil plan cover bolts back ! Most dealer oil change technicians are low man on the totem pole who generally don't care about proper oil drain plug torque pressure or making sure you get all of your under body bolts back ... I do it myself and know it was done right .
Originally Posted by Roger7142
So the Kia dealership where I bought the car (2019 Sorento V6 EX, GDI engine) offers a full synthetic change for $50.00. You have to purchase 3 of them together, but the regular single purchase price is $65, so its a $15.00 discount over that.
Is $50 a good price for this? They use TOTAL Quartz 9000 5w30 synthetic.
If I brought my own oil to them it would prob. be a synthetic from Mobil, Pennzoil, or SuperTech.
My OCI is 5,000 miles. Thank you in advance for any advice.
 
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