Breaking and Entering.

[volvos_rock]

OK, I work in PA in a medium sized dept. PA is one of the most restrictive states as far as what and how the police must/can do.

From what I understand of the Indiana ruling is this. The wife in the house calls for police for either a domestic or an unknown problem. Now the police MUST respond (as we have to, to all calls for service). Police arrive on scene, husband answers door, refuses entry to police, refuses to get wife for police to talk to. They enter, he resists gets tased and arrested. The police did there jobs as they are supposed to as Im sure everyone here can figure what would happen if they had just left and the woman was injured, dead or dying. remember SHE CALLED FOR HELP. next post

 

[volvos_rock]

sorry for the new post, computer gets wanky when response gets to long.

Now for the law, PA version anyway.

I can and will enter a home w/out a warrant under certain exceptions.
HOT/FRESH pursuit. chasing suspect for a crime, he runs home goes inside, I follow, even if it means breaking in.

exigent circumstances. (destruction of evidence, welfare of others) as in this case, she calls says beat me up, he refuses entry, she cant/wont come to the door, I enter.

for a warrantless entry there has to be no time prior to obtain a warrant, etc.
There is no right to resist even an unlawful arrest.
The alternative is that the laws/police, etc can go away and everyone knows what follows that.

 

[Al]

Originally Posted By: volvos_rock
OK, I work in PA in a medium sized dept. next post

Exactly


Thank you Volvos for making the Black Helicopter's away. Although they are probably still feared by some. I mean what you are saying is not rocket science.

Thank you for your service.

 

[volvos_rock]

Your welcome Al, the "Govts gonna get you crowd" is amazing. The un educated media stupidity does not help either. The simple fact of the matter is that if your not doing anything wrong there is nothing to worry about!

 

[JoeWGauss]

Originally Posted By: volvos_rock
The simple fact of the matter is that if your not doing anything wrong there is nothing to worry about!


A fascist state loves this ignorant and sheep like mentality, eventually even WHEN you aren't doing anything "wrong" they will come for you too.


Remember that the final "law of the land" in the USA is the Constitution, plain and simple. Any law that is created that violates the Constitution is indeed NULL and VOID. If a governmental entity insists on propagating such an illegal law, the Constitution also prescribes the remedy for that action.

 

[Volvo_ST1]

Originally Posted By: volvos_rock
computer gets wanky


!

 

[bmwjohn]

Well, I like Ivan, and have taken classes from him, but I don't really agree with him here.
However, I do keep up on politics, and work the polls every year (and of course VOTE) so I like to think some politicians know I am keeping my good eye on them, and remember who does what. I am a Libertarian, but whatever group you associate with needs people to take an active interest in public affairs, even if it means skipping Farmville and American Idol.
I hope this isn't viewed as too political.

 

[volvos_rock]

Originally Posted By: JoeWGauss
Originally Posted By: volvos_rock
The simple fact of the matter is that if your not doing anything wrong there is nothing to worry about!


A fascist state loves this ignorant and sheep like mentality, eventually even WHEN you aren't doing anything "wrong" they will come for you too.


Remember that the final "law of the land" in the USA is the Constitution, plain and simple. Any law that is created that violates the Constitution is indeed NULL and VOID. If a governmental entity insists on propagating such an illegal law, the Constitution also prescribes the remedy for that action.


Ahh the good old fascist/ignorant name calling game....you'll have to excuse my fascist/ignorant response providing factual information to the topic at hand.