BF got a Volt!

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BF recently got in a car accident that totaled his beloved GTI. Budget was super tight, so it felt like the best way to get into another decent, modern vehicle was to use the IRS's $4K Used EV tax credit as the down payment. That didn't leave a ton of options. Thing is, he doesn't really like EVs (although I think our hassle-free road trip to LA in my Tesla is starting to slowly sway that). He can fortunately charge at home via a regular wall outlet (Level 1). Many EV people think it's useless but I've been charging like that at my home for years now and it's been totally sufficient for my needs and I rarely use public charging.

He liked the looks of the Fusion Energi (the plugin hybrid version of the Ford Fusion), so that was what we looked for first, but all of them that we found locally online at dealerships were magically unavailable when we got there. Very frustrating.

So, we looked at a Bolt, my personal favorite value vehicle, but after a bad experience dealing with charging a Bolt he rented a few years ago, he wasn't super thrilled about it. The same dealership we were looking at the Bolt at also had this Volt, and after a quick test drive, he decided to go for it!

Anyway, it's a 2017 Volt LT, 61K miles. Paid about $13K before the rebate. Most important features are AC and CarPlay which both work great. I did notice this car has the FASTEST power windows I've ever seen on any car in my entire life, and I've owned and driven MANY vehicles. Anyone else with a 2nd gen Volt out there notice the same thing? haha they ZOOM up and down.

After charging it fully the estimated EV range is 42, not great compared to the EPA rating of 53 when the car was new, but I'm thinking this number is just low because it's based on your driving and the way home was mostly highway? I'm curious what it will be after a few charge cycles of his normal driving. When I had my 2015 Volt a couple years ago, it was still getting over 40 miles of EV range, which was the original rating for that year, so I'm hopeful this 2017 one has similar (non-existant) degradation. A lifetime MPG of like 52MPG makes me think the previous owners mostly used the car as a regular hybrid and didn't plug in often? I wonder if that's a good thing or a bad thing?

His initial impressions of the Volt after driving it home was that he is happy with the vehicle based on the dirt cheap payment with nothing down and that it's got plenty of pep due to the EV part but the GTI had a better quality interior and much better sound system. A fair conclusion I'd say.

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I still believe the electric car phase would have done better if the just replaced the gas engine with an electric motor and left the rest of the car alone. Years ago backyard mechanics were doing this and it worked just fine.
 
I still believe the electric car phase would have done better if the just replaced the gas engine with an electric motor and left the rest of the car alone. Years ago backyard mechanics were doing this and it worked just fine.
That's what most EVs are. Compromises are just that; compromises. The reason Teslas are so good is they are a pure play EV.
 
A distant relative of mine has a 2017 volt. I have driven it and like it.

My understanding is the volt under rates the battery when new. Perhaps it says the battery has a 50 miles range but this is secretly only using %60 of the battery. As it ages the computer uses move of it's capacity to keep that 50 miles range and give the impression that the battery is doing exceptionally well. After many years the range will drop quickly.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
We had one a work. It drove nice and used shockingly little fuel. Surprising quality for a Chevy. The drivers seat had some weird support that hit my left leg and I couldn't own one for that reason. It's usually the headrests on some newer cars that make me crazy.
 
I still believe the electric car phase would have done better if the just replaced the gas engine with an electric motor and left the rest of the car alone. Years ago backyard mechanics were doing this and it worked just fine.
The only real shortcoming of that is efficiency. Cars developed from the ground up as EVs can get a lot more creative with packaging which can also mean efficiency increases.
 
The only real shortcoming of that is efficiency. Cars developed from the ground up as EVs can get a lot more creative with packaging which can also mean efficiency increases.
"Creative with packaging", that is a creative way of describing it. 👍
 
We had one a work. It drove nice and used shockingly little fuel. Surprising quality for a Chevy. The drivers seat had some weird support that hit my left leg and I couldn't own one for that reason. It's usually the headrests on some newer cars that make me crazy.

That's why I don't get how people buy cars without test driving them haha.

I mean the fuel economy if you don't plug it is nothing special... a 2017 Prius is EPA rated for 52MPG combined while the Volt is rated at 42MPG combined assuming you never plug it in. But, hey, no $4K free down payment for a Prius, that buys a lot of gas, and assuming you plug it in, your actual MPG can be way better.
 
That's why I don't get how people buy cars without test driving them haha.

I mean the fuel economy if you don't plug it is nothing special... a 2017 Prius is EPA rated for 52MPG combined while the Volt is rated at 42MPG combined assuming you never plug it in. But, hey, no $4K free down payment for a Prius, that buys a lot of gas, and assuming you plug it in, your actual MPG can be way better.
Actually there is a free $4k if you lease a Prius. I agree, plugging in a Volt is a must to really enjoy the benefits.
 
You can't lease a used Prius though... and if you do a lot of miles annually a lease is no bueno.
Not that I'm particularly a fan of leasing, but I'm definitely one of those that would completely surpass the mileage on a lease. I've never seen a contract that I can recall that was more than 15k miles.
 
I never thought the seats in our '18 Model 3 were bad. When I 1st test drove the Highland I was sold on the new seats.
The seat bottom has side bolsters for whatever reason. I was a lot heavier back then (311, I’m 196 now).

Thought I’d feel better about it now but 2 weeks ago I sat in my friend’s 2025 Model Y and nope, the seat bottom has even worse side bolsters.
 
Not that I'm particularly a fan of leasing, but I'm definitely one of those that would completely surpass the mileage on a lease. I've never seen a contract that I can recall that was more than 15k miles.
That is actually a very solvable problem if the dealership is reasonably sophisticated. They just need to charge for the additional anticipated mileage upfront.
 
The seat bottom has side bolsters for whatever reason. I was a lot heavier back then (311, I’m 196 now).

Thought I’d feel better about it now but 2 weeks ago I sat in my friend’s 2025 Model Y and nope, the seat bottom has even worse side bolsters.
Congrats on your health improvement! Well done.
 
That is actually a very solvable problem if the dealership is reasonably sophisticated. They just need to charge for the additional anticipated mileage upfront.
Yeah and that is going to be more expensive than purchasing long term. That also assumes I don't blow way over the mileage like I have recently.
 
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