Best performing all weather tire for snow

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I live in northeast Ohio and have a 2013 Honda Pilot. Sometimes, im not sure that I have AWD in the winter bc of tire performance. I dont want to deal with a dedicated winter tire. Most all-season tires dont really seem to perform that well in snow. Are there any exceptions? I have been reading about the Michelin cross climate 2 as having good results (on paper), but not really seeing a lot of feedback from user reviews. Also, the 60k life is a little disapppointing. Is that what I am giving up for the better snow handling?

Also thinking about Goodyear Comfortred, but can't really tell what the snow handling is like.

Is the lower life warranty a justified sacrifice for the snow performance? Or is the snow performance so nominal that I should just go with other factors and just accept that I am going to struggle in the winter.

PS Is the Continental AllSeasonContact only avaialable in the UK?
 
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I think you mean Best Performing All Weather tire and today you have many choices. Nokia, Michelin, Toyo, Yokohama, that's all that comes to mind right now, but there may be more brands.
 
Pelican said:
I think you mean Best Performing All Weather tire and today you have many choices. Nokia, Michelin, Toyo, Yokohama, that's all that comes to mind
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I dont really see any other brand touting solid snow performance like this particular tire. But maybe I misudnerstood.
 
If your talking all season
Vredsteins seem to be the only all season on the market
And are the best non-snow I’ve ever had, anything else that’s not a dedicated snow won’t do as well in snow as these.

Extremely bummed I can’t find the Quadtrac lites in the USA (the only ones that work properly on my old Honda Insight). When these finally wear I might have to try the quadtrac 5’s

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/thoughts-on-vredestein-quatrac-5.284663/
 
I'm in Kansas City, so we can get out fair share of snow. I, too, was concerned about snow performance, as my OEM Nexen tires were terrible last winter. My recent research narrowed my choices down to Michelin Defender T+H and General Altimax RT43. I just ordered the Michelins yesterday, as Costco has a current rebate of $150 on a set. The rebate made them cheaper than the Generals, along with having a longer stated tread life to boot!
 
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If your talking all season
Vredsteins seem to be the only all season on the market
And are the best non-snow I’ve ever had, anything else that’s not a dedicated snow won’t do as well in snow as these.

Extremely bummed I can’t find the Quadtrac lites in the USA (the only ones that work properly on my old Honda Insight). When these finally wear I might have to try the quadtrac 5’s

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/thoughts-on-vredestein-quatrac-5.284663/
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Vreidstein seem to have really short term longevity (45k). Ouch. Ill probably stick with the cross climate 2 because it has the same snow certification but has a 60k life
 
reemoeMO said:
I'm in Kansas City, so we can get out fair share of snow. I, too, was concerned about snow performance, as my OEM Nexen tires were terrible last winter. My recent research narrowed my choices down to Michelin Defender T+H and General Altimax RT43. I just ordered the Michelins yesterday, as Costco has a current rebate of $150 on a set. The rebate made them cheaper than the Generals, along with having a longer stated tread life to boot!
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Interesting. Those were my initial choices as well.

Michelin defender -> many review sites said the snow performance was just OK
https://tiredeets.com/michelin-defender-th-review/

"Snow and ice traction aren't as impressive as the price suggests".

They also don't have the snow certification decribed here:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=231

I was thinking about the Altimax RT43 but was a little worried about lots of complaints about premature wearing. Also doesnt have the snow certification so hard to really know how good it is in the snow. I was actually on the fence on this one. However, it doesnt seem to have the snowflake certification so I doubt its as good as the Michelin cross climate or the Nokian that someone else just mentioned in the thread.
 
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Two successful winters on Goodyear Weatheready, on our 2WD Santa Fe. Liked them enough to put them on our daughter's Outback.
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I did not see the Goodyear weather ready. Thats a good one for me to compare against the Nokian and the Cross Climate 2. Those 3 would seem to be the top contenders. I hope someone has considered at least 2 of these and has some additional advice/comparisons. Cross Climate 2 is so new that its hard to know how its going to hold up. My Costco has it OTD for 830 because of the Michelin 150 discount.
 
So i'm down to the Nokian versus the Michelin Cross Climate 2. They are both 60k tires. Not really sure whether one will really perform significantly better than the other. All great recommendations (I did not know about the Nokian). All things equal, I would buy the Nokian probably, but with Costco's Michelin $150 discount right now, it's hard to justifiy on the extra $70 on the Nokian. Could it really be that much better in the snow than the Cross Climate 2? Thats the real question. I guess I am going to go out on a limb and try the Michelin mainly bc of price. It will be a few days before I install the Cross Climate 2. I will keep an eye on this thread because I am really inetersted to hear whether anyone thinks there would be a really big difference in performance to justify the extra spend. I could always still go with the Nokian if I could get some more detail/opinions on the Nokian v the Michelin CC2
 
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How long do you realistically think a tire should last ? No reason to try to push a tire that’s good in the snow year after year for 60k plus miles. Anything past like 6/32 starts to get sketch in the rain let alone snow

thing about michelins they are usually better than most for the life of the tire

I’d you are looking for max performance a 60k tire will probably need to be replaced sooner than 60k
 
MattPersman said:
How long do you realistically think a tire should last ? No reason to try to push a tire that’s good in the snow year after year for 60k plus miles. Anything past like 6/32 starts to get sketch in the rain let alone snow

thing about michelins they are usually better than most for the life of the tire

I’d you are looking for max performance a 60k tire will probably need to be replaced sooner than 60k
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Thats fair advice. I came back down to earth...haha
 
Updating this thread to: Nokian WRG4 versus the Michelin CC2. Would love to hear from anyone who has tried either tire in the snow.

Also a really interesting read here bc it names all the big contenders discussed in my thread (goodyear weatheready, nokian, vreidstein, michelin C+):
https://www.moderntiredealer.com/ar...nk-like-a-consumer-when-the-temperature-drops

Cross Climate wins in this review. But unfortunately, its the old cross climate + (not the new one). Anyone know more about the new cross-climate 2 and how it compares to previous one??

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Found this, but wish they had done a similar test with the Nokian -> seems to confirm that it will perform better than weatherready in the snow
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=260
 
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NEOHIO said:
I live in northeast Ohio and have a 2013 Honda Pilot. Sometimes, im not sure that I have AWD in the winter bc of tire performance. I dont want to deal with a dedicated winter tire. Most all-season tires dont really seem to perform that well in snow. Are there any exceptions? I have been reading about the Michelin cross climate 2 as having good results (on paper), but not really seeing a lot of feedback from user reviews. Also, the 60k life is a little disapppointing. Is that what I am giving up for the better snow handling?

Also thinking about Goodyear Comfortred, but can't really tell what the snow handling is like.

Is the lower life warranty a justified sacrifice for the snow performance? Or is the snow performance so nominal that I should just go with other factors and just accept that I am going to struggle in the winter.

PS Is the Continental AllSeasonContact only avaialable in the UK?
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60k life isn't disappointing. Having a rubber compound that is soft enough to grip the snow/ice doesn't usually go well with long wear.

What do you want? 100k miles hockey pucks and all-weather traction?
 
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