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Originally Posted By: virginoil
Originally Posted By: carlsberg1664
I recently bought a 2010 Corolla that has the usual 4 cyl engine.
It has 80,000 miles and the previous owner used Dino PYB 5w30 from day 1.
I use a Full Synthetic 0w20 in my 2014 Civic.
I would like to know if there would be any benefits (or problems such as leaks developing) if I use the synthetic.
It would be a switch from conventional to synthetic and a viscocity change as well.
Any/all recommendations would be appreciated


NO NEED TO change at 80,000 miles keep using the Dino PYB 5w30 as from day 1.

80000k miles is considered high mileage anyway.

Please do not get sucked in to go thinner at this stage.

More dis-benefits than benefits, despite what our learned colleagues believ
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Agreed
 
I agree. The one thing the op doesn't want to do is go "Slipperier" (synthetic). Needs to stay with pyb 5w-20-30 whichever he chooses.
 
Originally Posted By: virginoil
Originally Posted By: carlsberg1664
I recently bought a 2010 Corolla that has the usual 4 cyl engine.
It has 80,000 miles and the previous owner used Dino PYB 5w30 from day 1.
I use a Full Synthetic 0w20 in my 2014 Civic.
I would like to know if there would be any benefits (or problems such as leaks developing) if I use the synthetic.
It would be a switch from conventional to synthetic and a viscocity change as well.
Any/all recommendations would be appreciated


NO NEED TO change at 80,000 miles keep using the Dino PYB 5w30 as from day 1.


No "need" to change nor stay the same...

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80000k miles is considered high mileage anyway.


Not since about 1979...

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Please do not get sucked in to go thinner at this stage.

More dis-benefits than benefits, despite what our learned colleagues believe.


Do you sell parts at Autozone?
smile.gif


What's the "dis-benefit?" Better fuel economy?

Faster flow at startup possibly helping where about 70-90% of actual wear happens?
 
Other that below 0*f starting there is not much to gain by running a syn oil a 5000 mile oil change intervals these days as the oils are that good. Syn or conventional run what makes you feel good and be happy.
 
Originally Posted By: CT8
Other that below 0*f starting there is not much to gain by running a syn oil a 5000 mile oil change intervals these days as the oils are that good. Syn or conventional run what makes you feel good and be happy.


I basically agree. But there's not much reason not to with rebates making most of the syns the same price as conventional or less. There is a possibility of incremental, small fuel savings as well but not something most will notice. The mpg chronometer on my mother's Milan/Fusion hybrid has ticked up since I put in the 0W-20 Mobil 1 EP (almost 34 mpg in mixed driving)...
 
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: virginoil
Originally Posted By: carlsberg1664
I recently bought a 2010 Corolla that has the usual 4 cyl engine.
It has 80,000 miles and the previous owner used Dino PYB 5w30 from day 1.
I use a Full Synthetic 0w20 in my 2014 Civic.
I would like to know if there would be any benefits (or problems such as leaks developing) if I use the synthetic.
It would be a switch from conventional to synthetic and a viscocity change as well.
Any/all recommendations would be appreciated


NO NEED TO change at 80,000 miles keep using the Dino PYB 5w30 as from day 1.


No "need" to change nor stay the same...
Wrong. No need to change just because someone posts here on this site.
Plenty of new members have vehicles performing well and with good oil change regimes never having consulted BITOG.
We can learn from them.

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80000k miles is considered high mileage anyway.


Not since about 1979...
Wrong again, high mileage oils were advertied for vehicles over 75000 miles in the last 10 years.

Quote:
Please do not get sucked in to go thinner at this stage.

More dis-benefits than benefits, despite what our learned colleagues believe.


Do you sell parts at Autozone?
smile.gif

No, but do you sell parts?

What's the "dis-benefit?" Better fuel economy?
Seals usually hardened after 80000 miles and 7 years of age.
Vehicles of this mileage and age were not recommended for switching by a some oil manufacturer some years ago.
If you are prepared to help fund the OPs repairs should weeping or leaks occur then I may agree with you.
Yes this my opinion and observation and it is just as valid as yours.

Faster flow at startup possibly helping where about 70-90% of actual wear happens?

How much faster is the flow between a 0w-20 and 5w30 in real world conditions.
This comment is bordering on being negligible again my opinion and observation and just as valid as yours.

My responses are below each quote you challenged.
And I don't want to turn it into a debate.
 
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Use any name brand oil with the viscosity stated in the manual for the life of the car. Switching to synthetic won't cause leaks.

The high mileage stuff is just marketing nonsense. And don't fall for the "use thicker oil" myth.
 
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Originally Posted By: Starman2112
Use any name brand oil with the viscosity stated in the manual for the life of the car. Switching to synthetic won't cause leaks.

The high mileage stuff is just marketing nonsense. And don't fall for the "use thicker oil" myth.
Originally Posted By: virginoil
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: virginoil
Originally Posted By: carlsberg1664
I recently bought a 2010 Corolla that has the usual 4 cyl engine.
It has 80,000 miles and the previous owner used Dino PYB 5w30 from day 1.
I use a Full Synthetic 0w20 in my 2014 Civic.
I would like to know if there would be any benefits (or problems such as leaks developing) if I use the synthetic.
It would be a switch from conventional to synthetic and a viscocity change as well.
Any/all recommendations would be appreciated


NO NEED TO change at 80,000 miles keep using the Dino PYB 5w30 as from day 1.


No "need" to change nor stay the same...
Wrong. No need to change just because someone posts here on this site.
Plenty of new members have vehicles performing well and with good oil change regimes never having consulted BITOG.
We can learn from them.

Quote:
80000k miles is considered high mileage anyway.


Not since about 1979...
Wrong again, high mileage oils were advertied for vehicles over 75000 miles in the last 10 years.

Quote:
Please do not get sucked in to go thinner at this stage.

More dis-benefits than benefits, despite what our learned colleagues believe.


Do you sell parts at Autozone?
smile.gif

No, but do you sell parts?

What's the "dis-benefit?" Better fuel economy?
Seals usually hardened after 80000 miles and 7 years of age.
Vehicles of this mileage and age were not recommended for switching by a some oil manufacturer some years ago.
If you are prepared to help fund the OPs repairs should weeping or leaks occur then I may agree with you.
Yes this my opinion and observation and it is just as valid as yours.

Faster flow at startup possibly helping where about 70-90% of actual wear happens?

How much faster is the flow between a 0w-20 and 5w30 in real world conditions.
This comment is bordering on being negligible again my opinion and observation and just as valid as yours.

My responses are below each quote you challenged.
And I don't want to turn it into a debate.
Originally Posted By: virginoil
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: virginoil
Originally Posted By: carlsberg1664
I recently bought a 2010 Corolla that has the usual 4 cyl engine.
It has 80,000 miles and the previous owner used Dino PYB 5w30 from day 1.
I use a Full Synthetic 0w20 in my 2014 Civic.
I would like to know if there would be any benefits (or problems such as leaks developing) if I use the synthetic.
It would be a switch from conventional to synthetic and a viscocity change as well.
Any/all recommendations would be appreciated


NO NEED TO change at 80,000 miles keep using the Dino PYB 5w30 as from day 1.


No "need" to change nor stay the same...
Wrong. No need to change just because someone posts here on this site.
Plenty of new members have vehicles performing well and with good oil change regimes never having consulted BITOG.
We can learn from them.

Quote:
80000k miles is considered high mileage anyway.


Not since about 1979...
Wrong again, high mileage oils were advertied for vehicles over 75000 miles in the last 10 years.

Quote:
Please do not get sucked in to go thinner at this stage.

More dis-benefits than benefits, despite what our learned colleagues believe.


Do you sell parts at Autozone?
smile.gif

No, but do you sell parts?

What's the "dis-benefit?" Better fuel economy?
Seals usually hardened after 80000 miles and 7 years of age.
Vehicles of this mileage and age were not recommended for switching by a some oil manufacturer some years ago.
If you are prepared to help fund the OPs repairs should weeping or leaks occur then I may agree with you.
Yes this my opinion and observation and it is just as valid as yours.

Faster flow at startup possibly helping where about 70-90% of actual wear happens?

How much faster is the flow between a 0w-20 and 5w30 in real world conditions.
This comment is bordering on being negligible again my opinion and observation and just as valid as yours.

My responses are below each quote you challenged.
And I don't want to turn it into a debate.


A debate? He asked for opinions! I gave mine and everyone chomps the same myths. My opinion is that I'd use 0W-20 in New Hampshire in the winter. Have you ever even been there? How much faster does it flow? Probably quite a bit faster in sub zeroF temps. Have you ever driven in -26C temps or started a car in them?..

I challenged them as I was challenged, because I think they're wrong. If the OP has lots of 0W-20 on hand there's no reason not to use it as it is now the recommended by the manufacturer.

They don't know really how this Corolla was driven. My nephew had the same engine that was abused in a Celica there and his car actually burned MORE the heavier the oil he used...
 
Bought my 2010 Corolla with 33K miles, it has 153K miles, mostly M1 0w-20 and some Platinum Ultra 0w-20.

It burns no discernible amount of oil, starts and runs like new. I beat the EPA Highway mileage with every fill-up. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Don't buy into the idea that thicker oil is better. Thicker oil means top ring temps run higher and wear faster. The extra heat means there is a temporary effect on older engines that cause them to burn less oil for a short while, because higher top ring temps mean more ring expansion and better sealing... until more wear does its thing, and then it burns even more oil than ever.

There's not a lot of viscosity difference between modern Energy Conserving 5w30 and 0w-20. Primarily you are getting a lower quality oil with the 5w30 and more synthetics with the 0w-20. It only matters if the engine runs in extreme engine temp conditions, then the higher quality synthetic oil will prevail.
 
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