best dino to leave in for 10,000 kms?

[TomJones76]

I gotta' commend 427Z06's choice here. With the weather in the phillipines, there's no real need for multi-grade oils. A straight 30 weight should work nicely. You should be able to find a good, high TBN 30-weight marketed to truckers or heavy equipment operators.
If I needed some, I'd drive to the nearest truck stop. I don't know where I'd get one in the phillipines, and I don't know if you folk get truck stops.

 

[Ray H]

I get the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that most of you are confusing 10,000 km with 10,000 miles. 10,000 km is 6,000 miles, people. While I'm an unapologetic 3,000 mile OCIer, Havoline conventional 5w30 shouldn't have any trouble going the distance in a lightly tuned motor, temperatures permitting.

 

[mattf2]

Like Ray, i was going to point out that it's only 6200 miles. I ran QS 5w30 in my S10 180,000 miles on a 6000 mile schedule until joining BITOG, and have since switched to pennzoil.

The S10 still doesn't burn a drop of oil w/ 212,000 on it. So...

Go with a good quality Dino and change the oil at 10,000 KM.

BTW, 140,000 km on a Honda shouldn't be 1/2 worn out.

Happy motoring!

 

[vwoom]

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Originally posted by BlazerLT:
There is no real reason to run a 15w40 in a small engine period.

The oil pump is not meant to pump that heavy of a oil in a civic.

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The P.I. is located just above the equator where the climate is TROPICAL. Your most common/garden variety otc pcmo wt available there is 20w50...so why worry running 15w40 in humid weather. Now if you run 15w40 up there in frigid Canada for a Civic(or for any car)well that's another story.

Straight 30wt Delo would be doable year round in the lowlands of P.I. Even 40wt for the hottest months of the year...But unless you live or stay for long periods say up high in Baguio City or the Mt. Province(cold & wet most of the year)..a multi wt Delo would be preferrable.

[ February 22, 2005, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: vwoom ]

 

[vwoom]

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Originally posted by Ray H:
I get the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that most of you are confusing 10,000 km with 10,000 miles. 10,000 km is 6,000 miles, people. While I'm an unapologetic 3,000 mile OCIer, Havoline conventional 5w30 shouldn't have any trouble going the distance in a lightly tuned motor, temperatures permitting.

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I consider driving in P.I.s road/traffic conditions as "severe"...with the horrendous city slow traffic everywhere(if you hit 55mph/88kmph in long stretches, consider yourself lucky), humid and hot temp and the subpar quality of fuels available..If you ask me I won't push it till 10,000 km.

[ February 22, 2005, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: vwoom ]

 

[Gary Allan]

Ray and Matt

All temperature aspects that you guys employ in your use are out the window in a tropical enviroment. There's no need for VII when you don't need cold weather pumpability. The use of VII tends to make many 5w30 oils turn into 20 weight oils.

This is severe duty. You would not use your Havolines or Citgos or your Supertech 5w30 for 6,000 miles of tropical city driving. I'd really like to meet the BITOG member that would. You may use it for a 3 month or 6 month OCI ..but I'll bet you 10:1 you would rather shower with sewer water than to use a common 5w30 in severe duty over ONE YEAR.

 

[427Z06]

Manila, PI temperatures. That should put things in perspective.

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

With a temp graph like that, straight 40wt is fine. Yes, 40wt. If it never gets below 60F, there's no problem, especially since this car isn't going to rack up another 200,000KM's on it!

I have straight 40wt in my lawn mower and it fires right up without a hint of sluggishness when it's above 60F...even 55F.

Delo is my first choice, straight 40wt is my second choice! Then, I'd choose Coastal 5w-20.

 

[Gary Allan]

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Manila, PI temperatures. That should put things in perspective.

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Check the precipitation from May to Sep

It's a shame the relative humidity scale stops @ 100%

We had a friend who did missionary work over there. She said by the time her tour was up (a little over a year) she was finally able to wear jeans in comfort.

As you can see from the monsoon ..even the sky sweats profusely

 

[KW]

I think any of the HDEO 15W40 oils would work well for you.

 

[dustyjoe1]

Stick with the havoline, its nothing fancy, but for 10,000 kms its perfect. use whatever weight feels best in the car. I would go either 5 or 10w30 to start with.

 

[cos]

I say go with a good 15W40, hopefully on sale as $ seems to be a critical factor in this case. Now as for that weather - Yikes!

 

[427Z06]

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Originally posted by Gary Allan:
As was mentioned, a Delo straight 30 or 40 weight might do well in this use as well as the 15w40.

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I partially agree. Mobil Delvac 1630 or a Delo 400 in SAE30 is another option if you can find it. I'd avoid the straight SAE 40 though.

 

[genie47]

I use a 5W30 in such climates. UOA due soon. Especially trying for the car this time. Our local temperatures have reached 93F recently. Been held there for 3 weeks already.

Difference is my car is relatively young at 30k km.

Since our SEA friend here has a 140k km Civic, I guess a 15W40 HDEO would be the way to go.

 

[mattf2]

I wasn'y implying to go w/ a 5w oil, but to say a dino oil would last 6200 miles.

15w40, I'm sure would get them there. A higher quality 10w40 would probably even do the trick.

 

[TR3-2001SE]

I think you have already been given the best advise but I will add to it. I have spend many weeks in the Philippines in Manila and Cebu. Americans who have not been do not know what hot is. It is not Florida summer hot. It is not Bahamas hot. It is very very very hot. In this weather a 15w40 is your minimum oil viscosity.
The delo 15w40 is the best and UOA's have shown that it does not thin or thicken. It is relatively cheap. Castrol GTX 20W-50 is an excellent oil for 3000-4000 miles. It has already thinned to 40 by that time sometimes even 30 or less. Not good for this application. If you can't get delo, Delvac or other Heavy Duty diesel oils will do the job.

 

[SWS]

I have a '03 Civic 1.7L VTEC and have read some info on these engines. I don't know specifically about the '96 Civics, but the word on Civic engines in general is that they are "oversquare" (small bore, very long stroke) with rather high compression and don't idle well with thick oil. Now, given the age of the '96 engine and the always-hot climate there is much less less concern about high viscosity, but I think that one should be aware that this engine makes nearly zero power at idle and it does not tolerate really high viscosity oil like other engines.

Best Wishes as you motor along!

 

[Volts Castillo]

thanks to everyone who replied, have bought delo 400 multigrade 15w40...4 quarts just yesterday and will be putting it in around saturday when i visit the house. i'll leave it in for the next 10-12 months...i just hope it'll do the job: mixed conditions driving, rain, humidity and near desert conditions heat along the north luzon highway this march to may.

will be changing the spark plugs too, to longer tip ngks for the hot weather and peak travel season this coming summer (mar-may). my sister and mother like to travel in the summer, and since i can't accompany them (dad's dead, and i can't go with them given my new family's other family thingy priorities).

thanks again. oh, i forget to add...per advice from the major car companies here, all cars should be given 5,000 km oil changes, and 7,000 usually voids your warranty if something happens to the engine. we're being shortchanged somewhat because in the US, people are advised to change every 5,000 MILES. 5,000 KMS and 5,000 MILES are different, right?

 

[Yuk]

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There is no real reason to run a 15w40 in a small engine period.
The oil pump is not meant to pump that heavy of a oil in a civic.

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I hear this kind of talk a lot. Is there any truth to this, or is it an old wives' tale?

I used Castrol Syntec 5W-50 in a 1986 1.9L Escort for 8 years. An 85 year-old with no peripheral vision killed the car, not oil pump failure.

Syntec 5W-50 was also used in my wife's 1988 Nissan Sentra 1.6L. After 11 years and 120,000 km the engine/oil pump is running beautifully. The transmission.....well, that's a completely different story.

The owner's manuals on both cars offered “thick” oils as options, providing they are used within their proper temperature ranges. If heavy weights fry pumps, why would auto manufactures even suggest that they are an option?

 

[427Z06]

5000 miles = 8065 kilometres
5000 kilometres = 3100 miles

(miles x .62 = kilometres)