Hi guy,
My Saab 93 MY2006 has an Aisin Warner TF-80SC 6-speed tranny. The recommended
oil is AW-1 (I imagine AW stands for Aisin Warner). The GM P/N is 93165147.
The Saab WIS (Workshop Instruction Manual) says it's a mineral oil.
But a lot a oil manufacturers claim they build multi-ATF for lots of "standards" or
"specifications", and they generally are synthetic fluids. AW-1 compliant oil is
quite easy to find along with JWS3309, DEXRON, etc.
I've crawled the internet for lots of resources, but the more I read, the more it confuses
me. For example, some owners warn against JWS3309 oil (they say it's for the 5-speed AT).
I've emailed Aisin Warner Europe for some information on AW1 and here is the answer:
Dear Mr,
Thank you for your mail.
Regarding your question, you can get the genuine ATF named “AW-1” only at the car dealer at this time.
We are considering to sell it to aftermarket in the future, but not yet.
AW-1 is not following the standard like Dexron, Marcon, etc.
In the past, all of the transmission manufacturer in Japan followed the GM standard, Dexron because the original structure of automatic transmission has come from U.S.A.
However, the manufacturer in Japan considered more small, fuel-efficient transmission. As a result, the required performance has been changed.
Therefore, AW-1 does not follow Dexron. I think the base oil may follow the “JWS” but the finalized ATF, sorry I am not sure.
Best regards,
Hiromi Kato
加藤 博巳
Vice President
After Market Division
AISIN EUROPE S.A.
So do you have an idea where to find (in Europe, so a brand name should be ok) AW-1
mineral oil, or is it safe to mix old oil with fresh synthetic AW-1 compliant oil?
I've read AW-1 is made by Ravenol in Germany but can't confirm that.
Thanks a lot for any hint.
My Saab 93 MY2006 has an Aisin Warner TF-80SC 6-speed tranny. The recommended
oil is AW-1 (I imagine AW stands for Aisin Warner). The GM P/N is 93165147.
The Saab WIS (Workshop Instruction Manual) says it's a mineral oil.
But a lot a oil manufacturers claim they build multi-ATF for lots of "standards" or
"specifications", and they generally are synthetic fluids. AW-1 compliant oil is
quite easy to find along with JWS3309, DEXRON, etc.
I've crawled the internet for lots of resources, but the more I read, the more it confuses
me. For example, some owners warn against JWS3309 oil (they say it's for the 5-speed AT).
I've emailed Aisin Warner Europe for some information on AW1 and here is the answer:
Dear Mr,
Thank you for your mail.
Regarding your question, you can get the genuine ATF named “AW-1” only at the car dealer at this time.
We are considering to sell it to aftermarket in the future, but not yet.
AW-1 is not following the standard like Dexron, Marcon, etc.
In the past, all of the transmission manufacturer in Japan followed the GM standard, Dexron because the original structure of automatic transmission has come from U.S.A.
However, the manufacturer in Japan considered more small, fuel-efficient transmission. As a result, the required performance has been changed.
Therefore, AW-1 does not follow Dexron. I think the base oil may follow the “JWS” but the finalized ATF, sorry I am not sure.
Best regards,
Hiromi Kato
加藤 博巳
Vice President
After Market Division
AISIN EUROPE S.A.
So do you have an idea where to find (in Europe, so a brand name should be ok) AW-1
mineral oil, or is it safe to mix old oil with fresh synthetic AW-1 compliant oil?
I've read AW-1 is made by Ravenol in Germany but can't confirm that.
Thanks a lot for any hint.