So here it is i have been running Edge for the last 2200 miles and with the 5-30 it burnt off 2 quarts already, now the truck has had a fair amount of idle time, as it has been 8 maybe less the last couple night ans has been staying rather cool everynight since well about mid october. just curious if anyone else has had this issue at all
Anyone else with an 8.1 and EDGE
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The 8.1 has problems with intake manifold gaskets, mine started using oil at about 80k and the dealer knew the problem before I finished describing it. Maybe yours too?
that would figure, i know the motor from the factory was rather well known for burning oil off, and does foul plugs, ill know how bad here in march when i replace the plugs.
I have about the same amount of miles on my current fill of Edge with no noticeable consumption. Using 5w30 as well, and I've been driving my car very hard. It's seen a fair amount of redlines and speeds that I won't mention.
Granted, the numbers are reversed... mine's in a 1.8, not a 8.1
Edge is one of the thinner xxW-30s
In order of the thinnest at 100c to the thickest!
Product Weight 40º c cst@100º c
Castrol Syntec 5w30 57.1 9.7
Castrol EDGE 5w30 54.17 9.8
Castrol EDGE 10w30 60.46 9.82
Mobil 1 10w30 62 10
Castrol Syntec 10w30 no data 10.1
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 0w30 56.56 10.3
Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 57.5 10.3
Eneos 5w30 58.1 10.4
Amsoil XL 5w30 58.2 10.5
Formula Shell 10w30 61.5 10.5
Pennzoil Platinum 10w30 63.4 10.5
Amsoil XL 10w30 63.6 10.5
Motorcraft Full Synthetic 5w30 60 10.5
Valvoline Synpower 5w30 59 10.5
Valvoline Synpower 10w30 64 10.5
Formula Shell 5w30 57.47 10.51
Red Line 5w30 62 10.6
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 10w30 66.1 10.7
Red Line 10w30 70 10.7
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 5w30 60.7 10.8
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 10w30 63.3 10.8
Royal Purple 10w30 70.3 10.8
Red Line 0w30 57 10.9
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 61 11
Mobil 1 0w30 63.1 11
Royal Purple 5w30 65.3 11
Mobil 1 5w30 64.8 11.3
Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 5w30 64.8 11.3
Mobil 1 High Mileage 5w30 68.5 11.48
Valvoline Synpower MST 5w30 69.9 11.7
Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 78.2 11.79
Castrol Syntec 0w30 67.6 12.1
Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 72.8 12.1
Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic 5w30 70 11.7
Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic 10w30 76 11.7
In order of the thinnest at 100c to the thickest!
Product Weight 40º c cst@100º c
Castrol Syntec 5w30 57.1 9.7
Castrol EDGE 5w30 54.17 9.8
Castrol EDGE 10w30 60.46 9.82
Mobil 1 10w30 62 10
Castrol Syntec 10w30 no data 10.1
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 0w30 56.56 10.3
Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 57.5 10.3
Eneos 5w30 58.1 10.4
Amsoil XL 5w30 58.2 10.5
Formula Shell 10w30 61.5 10.5
Pennzoil Platinum 10w30 63.4 10.5
Amsoil XL 10w30 63.6 10.5
Motorcraft Full Synthetic 5w30 60 10.5
Valvoline Synpower 5w30 59 10.5
Valvoline Synpower 10w30 64 10.5
Formula Shell 5w30 57.47 10.51
Red Line 5w30 62 10.6
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 10w30 66.1 10.7
Red Line 10w30 70 10.7
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 5w30 60.7 10.8
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 10w30 63.3 10.8
Royal Purple 10w30 70.3 10.8
Red Line 0w30 57 10.9
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 61 11
Mobil 1 0w30 63.1 11
Royal Purple 5w30 65.3 11
Mobil 1 5w30 64.8 11.3
Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 5w30 64.8 11.3
Mobil 1 High Mileage 5w30 68.5 11.48
Valvoline Synpower MST 5w30 69.9 11.7
Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 78.2 11.79
Castrol Syntec 0w30 67.6 12.1
Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 72.8 12.1
Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic 5w30 70 11.7
Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic 10w30 76 11.7
I've got a 8.1 in a motorhome and it's rated for 400 hp and 550 ft-lb, it drinks a quart every 1.5k miles. Manual says up to one quart a k mile is normal.
It's done this since day one, mile one.
Don't sweat it.
It's done this since day one, mile one.
Don't sweat it.
Originally Posted By: sangyup81
Edge is one of the thinner xxW-30s
In order of the thinnest at 100c to the thickest!
Product Weight 40º c cst@100º c
Castrol Syntec 5w30 57.1 9.7
Castrol EDGE 5w30 54.17 9.8
Castrol EDGE 10w30 60.46 9.82
Mobil 1 10w30 62 10
Castrol Syntec 10w30 no data 10.1
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 0w30 56.56 10.3
Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 57.5 10.3
Eneos 5w30 58.1 10.4
Amsoil XL 5w30 58.2 10.5
Formula Shell 10w30 61.5 10.5
Pennzoil Platinum 10w30 63.4 10.5
Amsoil XL 10w30 63.6 10.5
Motorcraft Full Synthetic 5w30 60 10.5
Valvoline Synpower 5w30 59 10.5
Valvoline Synpower 10w30 64 10.5
Formula Shell 5w30 57.47 10.51
Red Line 5w30 62 10.6
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 10w30 66.1 10.7
Red Line 10w30 70 10.7
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 5w30 60.7 10.8
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 10w30 63.3 10.8
Royal Purple 10w30 70.3 10.8
Red Line 0w30 57 10.9
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 61 11
Mobil 1 0w30 63.1 11
Royal Purple 5w30 65.3 11
Mobil 1 5w30 64.8 11.3
Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 5w30 64.8 11.3
Mobil 1 High Mileage 5w30 68.5 11.48
Valvoline Synpower MST 5w30 69.9 11.7
Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 78.2 11.79
Castrol Syntec 0w30 67.6 12.1
Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 72.8 12.1
Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic 5w30 70 11.7
Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic 10w30 76 11.7
Good God! Isn't V-MaxLife a Synthetic Blend? It's not a full synthetic right?
Edge is one of the thinner xxW-30s
In order of the thinnest at 100c to the thickest!
Product Weight 40º c cst@100º c
Castrol Syntec 5w30 57.1 9.7
Castrol EDGE 5w30 54.17 9.8
Castrol EDGE 10w30 60.46 9.82
Mobil 1 10w30 62 10
Castrol Syntec 10w30 no data 10.1
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 0w30 56.56 10.3
Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 57.5 10.3
Eneos 5w30 58.1 10.4
Amsoil XL 5w30 58.2 10.5
Formula Shell 10w30 61.5 10.5
Pennzoil Platinum 10w30 63.4 10.5
Amsoil XL 10w30 63.6 10.5
Motorcraft Full Synthetic 5w30 60 10.5
Valvoline Synpower 5w30 59 10.5
Valvoline Synpower 10w30 64 10.5
Formula Shell 5w30 57.47 10.51
Red Line 5w30 62 10.6
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 10w30 66.1 10.7
Red Line 10w30 70 10.7
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 5w30 60.7 10.8
Amsoil 100% Synthetic 10w30 63.3 10.8
Royal Purple 10w30 70.3 10.8
Red Line 0w30 57 10.9
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 61 11
Mobil 1 0w30 63.1 11
Royal Purple 5w30 65.3 11
Mobil 1 5w30 64.8 11.3
Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 5w30 64.8 11.3
Mobil 1 High Mileage 5w30 68.5 11.48
Valvoline Synpower MST 5w30 69.9 11.7
Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 78.2 11.79
Castrol Syntec 0w30 67.6 12.1
Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 72.8 12.1
Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic 5w30 70 11.7
Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic 10w30 76 11.7
Good God! Isn't V-MaxLife a Synthetic Blend? It's not a full synthetic right?
Originally Posted By: dakota99
Maxlife comes in both synthetic and blend.
blend is 11.5 @ 100C
synthetic is 11.7 @ 100C
alright ...that still doesn't relieve my thoughts of running such a thick oil in my car ...although my car has been running strong with it ...
Maxlife comes in both synthetic and blend.
blend is 11.5 @ 100C
synthetic is 11.7 @ 100C
alright ...that still doesn't relieve my thoughts of running such a thick oil in my car ...although my car has been running strong with it ...
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Originally Posted By: Juhsga
Originally Posted By: dakota99
Maxlife comes in both synthetic and blend.
blend is 11.5 @ 100C
synthetic is 11.7 @ 100C
alright ...that still doesn't relieve my thoughts of running such a thick oil in my car ...although my car has been running strong with it ...
I've been using German Castrol (Syntec 0w30) in a 2000 Camry, 2003 Mazda Tribute v6, and I've run it in my 2002 Lancer.
12.1 cSt @ 100c!
I've considered thicker before. A minor loss in fuel economy but more piece of mind =)
Originally Posted By: dakota99
Maxlife comes in both synthetic and blend.
blend is 11.5 @ 100C
synthetic is 11.7 @ 100C
alright ...that still doesn't relieve my thoughts of running such a thick oil in my car ...although my car has been running strong with it ...
I've been using German Castrol (Syntec 0w30) in a 2000 Camry, 2003 Mazda Tribute v6, and I've run it in my 2002 Lancer.
12.1 cSt @ 100c!
I've considered thicker before. A minor loss in fuel economy but more piece of mind =)
What about switching from V-ML to CE although? What do you guys think? And if it's alright ...should I move to 10w30 for CE?
It wouldn't hurt any switching to edge. You might notice it's a little more responsive going with a thinner oil. As far as protection.. i personally don't think there would be any gain, maxlife is really good oil and given the price i wouldn't buy edge. I have 5 quarts in my garage from the AAP sale that will go in the camry next.
Getting back to the OP's engine, I'd go with a thicker oil.
You've mentioned this is severe service, with a fair amount of idle time, so fuel will be getting in the oil, and accelerating oil consumption.
I'd start with a switch the Maxlife 5w30. It's both thicker and stouter for your service. If you insist on a synthetic, go with M1 HM 10w30 or Maxlife synthetic 5w30 (if you can find it).
You've mentioned this is severe service, with a fair amount of idle time, so fuel will be getting in the oil, and accelerating oil consumption.
I'd start with a switch the Maxlife 5w30. It's both thicker and stouter for your service. If you insist on a synthetic, go with M1 HM 10w30 or Maxlife synthetic 5w30 (if you can find it).
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