I still have to sgree with Andrewg. I see no solid proof she is the killer. Some people I work with disagree with me and say they found the body in the trunk, they did not. I dated girls that I would think a body was in the trunk, women are not neat car keepers, its a mode of transportation to them. If they found the body in the trunk, her prints on the tape, then maybe we would have a case, now they have nothing, but a bad mother, which is not a offense punishable by death or even long imprisonment. There was lot more proof and O.J walked. The police have borderlined crossing the line of consitutional rights to find anything and have come up short of anything. I see no smoking gun, I see no undeniable evidence of her guilt in the murder, I couldnt even see why they were able to hold her in jail with the evidence she had. I think the case got so much coverage, because the little girl, who had big beautiful eyes was plastered everywhere and it was so easy to stir up a lynch mob to avenge this little girl and the mother was a bad mother, so string her up. Bad mother definetely, killer only possibly. Alot of bad mothers and fathers, abuse their children for years, before finnally killing them, I see no proof she was a abusive mother, no visits to the doctor for broken limbs, no bruises, otherwise happy little girl then she disappeared and was found dead. I have no idea what happened to that little girl and no one else does on here or in that jury and for that she doesnt get convicted in my book. Its a lack of evidence, lack of proof and if she is convicted, more people should be mad and fear that they too may be convicted by the press rather than a jury.
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Just a prolonged distraction and diversion by the State run media. The world is on fire and the U. S. of A. is being pushed over the cliff--but this tripe is promoted. Yikes!! John--Las Vegas.
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
I still have to sgree with Andrewg. I see no solid proof she is the killer.
"Beyond reasonable doubt" is the requirement.
I still have to sgree with Andrewg. I see no solid proof she is the killer.
"Beyond reasonable doubt" is the requirement.
What I think is of no consequense to this trial.
Panzerman and I are on the same page here. Whether it be proof or reasonable doubt, I don't see a solid conviction. Scary how some folks on this thread are ready and willing (even to do it themselves) to put Anthony to death. Almost resembles a lynch mob.
In my mind there is just way too much circumstantial type evidence and not enough concrete proof. No way I would want to put somebody to death based on what I know about this trial. As I've stated before....she may very well have done it. She's a liar, a self-centered brat, morally corrupt, manipulative, and basically a very strange person. But did she do it? Not enough evidence to convict. Was she aware her daughter was dead? Maybe....but once again, not enough evidence in my book.
In my mind there is just way too much circumstantial type evidence and not enough concrete proof. No way I would want to put somebody to death based on what I know about this trial. As I've stated before....she may very well have done it. She's a liar, a self-centered brat, morally corrupt, manipulative, and basically a very strange person. But did she do it? Not enough evidence to convict. Was she aware her daughter was dead? Maybe....but once again, not enough evidence in my book.
Originally Posted By: motorguy222
She was partying,she waited a month to say anything and that was after others pressured her and she lied how many times afterwards about what happened?
What more is needed to prove that Casey is guilty?
A heck of a lot more, thank God.
She was partying,she waited a month to say anything and that was after others pressured her and she lied how many times afterwards about what happened?
What more is needed to prove that Casey is guilty?
A heck of a lot more, thank God.
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Originally Posted By: andrewg
...There. I've now 'substantiated' my opinion for you.
Lets see if the Jury agrees....THEY were actually there..
Yes, we will see. I still don't grasp why you feel that being in the actual court gives one some extraordinary ability of perception (especially since ANY and ALL transcripts are readily available online). I believe that the main advantage of the jury in deciding this case would lie in the fact that they discuss the whole matter amongst themselves in great detail. Either way it makes no difference. What the jury decides is how our legal system works....like it or not (remember the O.J. trial?).
Originally Posted By: andrewg
...There. I've now 'substantiated' my opinion for you.
Lets see if the Jury agrees....THEY were actually there..
Yes, we will see. I still don't grasp why you feel that being in the actual court gives one some extraordinary ability of perception (especially since ANY and ALL transcripts are readily available online). I believe that the main advantage of the jury in deciding this case would lie in the fact that they discuss the whole matter amongst themselves in great detail. Either way it makes no difference. What the jury decides is how our legal system works....like it or not (remember the O.J. trial?).
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: motorguy222
She was partying,she waited a month to say anything and that was after others pressured her and she lied how many times afterwards about what happened?
What more is needed to prove that Casey is guilty?
A heck of a lot more, thank God.
Lets not only look at the actions taken by Casey,lets try and look into what she was thinking before and during the trial.
During the time that her parents and possibly others were asking about and seeking information about the little girl,Casey lied,avoided giving answers and went about life as if she didnt have a care.
She wasnt even the one to report the child as being missing.
Casey partied,dated and didnt show any type of worry nor was she distraught in any way.
This went on not for hours or days but for a month.
A person that does these things most likely is hiding something and has information regarding what is being hid.She was buying time to come up with some type of excuse/defense for what had happened.
When she did admit that Caylee was 'missing',she came up with a fake nannie and said that she had taken the girl.
What is going through this womans mind?
It isnt worry for a missing child.
It isnt grief for a child that was supposedly taken by a nannie.
It isnt remorse for a child that was lost,whether it was by accident or intentional.
She shows no concern of any type.
While in jail,she is more worried about getting her boyfriends phone number.
How many times did she go to the police asking to find her child?
How many times did she herself go up and down the streets seeking the child that that was supposed to have been kidnapped?
These are the actions of a person that is hiding and wants to keep,something hid.
The defense attorney has brought up anything and everything that he can think of to try and explain the actions that Casey took during the time that her child was missing.
She has set in the court room many times with a cold and uncaring look.She has cried on cue but has for the most part,been cold and calculating.
It wold seem that the parent of a murdered child would be unable for the most part to set in a trial and not show some type of emotion regarding the child.
If you take all of the actions and all of the inaction that Casey has taken,you have a person that has done nothing to help find out what happened to her little girl and has in most every way,hindered the investigation.
These are the actions of a guilty person.
Originally Posted By: motorguy222
She was partying,she waited a month to say anything and that was after others pressured her and she lied how many times afterwards about what happened?
What more is needed to prove that Casey is guilty?
A heck of a lot more, thank God.
Lets not only look at the actions taken by Casey,lets try and look into what she was thinking before and during the trial.
During the time that her parents and possibly others were asking about and seeking information about the little girl,Casey lied,avoided giving answers and went about life as if she didnt have a care.
She wasnt even the one to report the child as being missing.
Casey partied,dated and didnt show any type of worry nor was she distraught in any way.
This went on not for hours or days but for a month.
A person that does these things most likely is hiding something and has information regarding what is being hid.She was buying time to come up with some type of excuse/defense for what had happened.
When she did admit that Caylee was 'missing',she came up with a fake nannie and said that she had taken the girl.
What is going through this womans mind?
It isnt worry for a missing child.
It isnt grief for a child that was supposedly taken by a nannie.
It isnt remorse for a child that was lost,whether it was by accident or intentional.
She shows no concern of any type.
While in jail,she is more worried about getting her boyfriends phone number.
How many times did she go to the police asking to find her child?
How many times did she herself go up and down the streets seeking the child that that was supposed to have been kidnapped?
These are the actions of a person that is hiding and wants to keep,something hid.
The defense attorney has brought up anything and everything that he can think of to try and explain the actions that Casey took during the time that her child was missing.
She has set in the court room many times with a cold and uncaring look.She has cried on cue but has for the most part,been cold and calculating.
It wold seem that the parent of a murdered child would be unable for the most part to set in a trial and not show some type of emotion regarding the child.
If you take all of the actions and all of the inaction that Casey has taken,you have a person that has done nothing to help find out what happened to her little girl and has in most every way,hindered the investigation.
These are the actions of a guilty person.
I honestly could care less.
Those may very well be the actions of a guilty person but none of it proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey killed Caylee. All it really proves is what a poor excuse for a parent Casey was. I bet they wind up with a hung jury or they find her innocent. The longer the jury stays out, the greater chance they find her innocent. I bet Casey walks out of there in less than a week. The sad thing is Floridians like myself are the ones to pay for her trial and all the fiasco and drama that comes with it. Not to mention the State buying all the outfits she wears to court, feeding her 3 times a day, providing a doctor if she needs one and keeping a roof over her head. I have often wondered during this mess why in the world is she not sitting there in an orange prison jumpsuit, handcuffs and flip flops like every other jailbird?
Beyond a reasonable doubt varies by person doesn't it? Some people would accept an alien mind takeover as reasonable. As for me, with what I know, I would find her guilty. Luckily, I am not stuck in that room hearing all that nonsense. The tragedy is that a little girl died and her mom did nothing to protect her.
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Originally Posted By: Jimmy9190
Those may very well be the actions of a guilty person but none of it proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey killed Caylee. All it really proves is what a poor excuse for a parent Casey was. I bet they wind up with a hung jury or they find her innocent. The longer the jury stays out, the greater chance they find her innocent. I bet Casey walks out of there in less than a week. The sad thing is Floridians like myself are the ones to pay for her trial and all the fiasco and drama that comes with it. Not to mention the State buying all the outfits she wears to court, feeding her 3 times a day, providing a doctor if she needs one and keeping a roof over her head. I have often wondered during this mess why in the world is she not sitting there in an orange prison jumpsuit, handcuffs and flip flops like every other jailbird?
I agree with you. But I believe the accused are allowed (or furnished....I do not know) clothing that does not encourage a prejudicial appearance to the jury. An orange jumpsuit sort of just screams 'criminal'.
Those may very well be the actions of a guilty person but none of it proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey killed Caylee. All it really proves is what a poor excuse for a parent Casey was. I bet they wind up with a hung jury or they find her innocent. The longer the jury stays out, the greater chance they find her innocent. I bet Casey walks out of there in less than a week. The sad thing is Floridians like myself are the ones to pay for her trial and all the fiasco and drama that comes with it. Not to mention the State buying all the outfits she wears to court, feeding her 3 times a day, providing a doctor if she needs one and keeping a roof over her head. I have often wondered during this mess why in the world is she not sitting there in an orange prison jumpsuit, handcuffs and flip flops like every other jailbird?
I agree with you. But I believe the accused are allowed (or furnished....I do not know) clothing that does not encourage a prejudicial appearance to the jury. An orange jumpsuit sort of just screams 'criminal'.
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
I honestly could care less.
You mean you 'couldn't' care less.
Just poking you...
I honestly could care less.
You mean you 'couldn't' care less.
Just poking you...
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Originally Posted By: motorguy222
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: motorguy222
She was partying,she waited a month to say anything and that was after others pressured her and she lied how many times afterwards about what happened?
What more is needed to prove that Casey is guilty?
A heck of a lot more, thank God.
Lets not only look at the actions taken by Casey,lets try and look into what she was thinking before and during the trial.
During the time that her parents and possibly others were asking about and seeking information about the little girl,Casey lied,avoided giving answers and went about life as if she didnt have a care.
She wasnt even the one to report the child as being missing.
Casey partied,dated and didnt show any type of worry nor was she distraught in any way.
This went on not for hours or days but for a month.
A person that does these things most likely is hiding something and has information regarding what is being hid.She was buying time to come up with some type of excuse/defense for what had happened.
When she did admit that Caylee was 'missing',she came up with a fake nannie and said that she had taken the girl.
What is going through this womans mind?
It isnt worry for a missing child.
It isnt grief for a child that was supposedly taken by a nannie.
It isnt remorse for a child that was lost,whether it was by accident or intentional.
She shows no concern of any type.
While in jail,she is more worried about getting her boyfriends phone number.
How many times did she go to the police asking to find her child?
How many times did she herself go up and down the streets seeking the child that that was supposed to have been kidnapped?
These are the actions of a person that is hiding and wants to keep,something hid.
The defense attorney has brought up anything and everything that he can think of to try and explain the actions that Casey took during the time that her child was missing.
She has set in the court room many times with a cold and uncaring look.She has cried on cue but has for the most part,been cold and calculating.
It wold seem that the parent of a murdered child would be unable for the most part to set in a trial and not show some type of emotion regarding the child.
If you take all of the actions and all of the inaction that Casey has taken,you have a person that has done nothing to help find out what happened to her little girl and has in most every way,hindered the investigation.
These are the actions of a guilty person.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: motorguy222
She was partying,she waited a month to say anything and that was after others pressured her and she lied how many times afterwards about what happened?
What more is needed to prove that Casey is guilty?
A heck of a lot more, thank God.
Lets not only look at the actions taken by Casey,lets try and look into what she was thinking before and during the trial.
During the time that her parents and possibly others were asking about and seeking information about the little girl,Casey lied,avoided giving answers and went about life as if she didnt have a care.
She wasnt even the one to report the child as being missing.
Casey partied,dated and didnt show any type of worry nor was she distraught in any way.
This went on not for hours or days but for a month.
A person that does these things most likely is hiding something and has information regarding what is being hid.She was buying time to come up with some type of excuse/defense for what had happened.
When she did admit that Caylee was 'missing',she came up with a fake nannie and said that she had taken the girl.
What is going through this womans mind?
It isnt worry for a missing child.
It isnt grief for a child that was supposedly taken by a nannie.
It isnt remorse for a child that was lost,whether it was by accident or intentional.
She shows no concern of any type.
While in jail,she is more worried about getting her boyfriends phone number.
How many times did she go to the police asking to find her child?
How many times did she herself go up and down the streets seeking the child that that was supposed to have been kidnapped?
These are the actions of a person that is hiding and wants to keep,something hid.
The defense attorney has brought up anything and everything that he can think of to try and explain the actions that Casey took during the time that her child was missing.
She has set in the court room many times with a cold and uncaring look.She has cried on cue but has for the most part,been cold and calculating.
It wold seem that the parent of a murdered child would be unable for the most part to set in a trial and not show some type of emotion regarding the child.
If you take all of the actions and all of the inaction that Casey has taken,you have a person that has done nothing to help find out what happened to her little girl and has in most every way,hindered the investigation.
These are the actions of a guilty person.
Originally Posted By: kasedian
wow, would u want this mom in charge of ur childs Brownie Troop lol
wow, would u want this mom in charge of ur childs Brownie Troop lol
Originally Posted By: refaller
The tragedy is that a little girl died and her mom did nothing to protect her.
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This seems to be tha main issue.Whether Casey did the actual killing or had knowledge of it,she is guilty.She has done nothing to help with the case but has hindered it every step of the way,these are the things a guilty person does.
When someone has acted as she has and has not helped in any way,the criminal system really has no other choice than to charge her with the killing of Caylee.If Casey didnt do anything,she should have been trying to help the investigation.Instead,she did everything she could to hinder it.
Caylee may have been killed accidently but with Casey acting as she has,with her hindering the investigation and with her and her laywers throwing out absurd reasons for 'why' she acted as she did while Caylee was 'missing' are some of the biggest red flags that you could have.
Some say that there is not enough evidence,there is.If Casey had nothing to do with Caylee's death,she would have been telling 'who,what,where,when and how'.She did none of these things.Instead,she told one lie after another.
Considering that Casey has done as she has,she is the only suspect that they have.And,since Caylee died,Casey is responsible.The responsibilty of Caylee's death rests on the person that was responsible for taking care of her and since she didnt do that,she is accountable.
The tragedy is that a little girl died and her mom did nothing to protect her.
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This seems to be tha main issue.Whether Casey did the actual killing or had knowledge of it,she is guilty.She has done nothing to help with the case but has hindered it every step of the way,these are the things a guilty person does.
When someone has acted as she has and has not helped in any way,the criminal system really has no other choice than to charge her with the killing of Caylee.If Casey didnt do anything,she should have been trying to help the investigation.Instead,she did everything she could to hinder it.
Caylee may have been killed accidently but with Casey acting as she has,with her hindering the investigation and with her and her laywers throwing out absurd reasons for 'why' she acted as she did while Caylee was 'missing' are some of the biggest red flags that you could have.
Some say that there is not enough evidence,there is.If Casey had nothing to do with Caylee's death,she would have been telling 'who,what,where,when and how'.She did none of these things.Instead,she told one lie after another.
Considering that Casey has done as she has,she is the only suspect that they have.And,since Caylee died,Casey is responsible.The responsibilty of Caylee's death rests on the person that was responsible for taking care of her and since she didnt do that,she is accountable.
Not guilty on the major charges, but guilty of lying to the police! Unreal!
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