Another Toyota Issue...09/10 Corolla Steering
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the 747 jumbo jet is a fly-by-wire system, but it has 4 backup systems just in case.
Hopefully all the other automakers will wake up and make sure they have their ducks in a row before they get scrutinzed by the world (again)
Hopefully all the other automakers will wake up and make sure they have their ducks in a row before they get scrutinzed by the world (again)
Most of the problems I have read of are drivers that came from slack hydraulic systems with play and then moving a precise EPS system and they say 'it always needs correction' or 'wanders in the lane'.
I too have no issues with mine, and I drive a suburban as well so...I am getting the impression its the driver.
I too have no issues with mine, and I drive a suburban as well so...I am getting the impression its the driver.
Good thing that this affects only corollas, not the camry and other throttle problems ones. Then you could find yourself going 115MPH and then have no steering. Not good!
This is a FWD strut geometry issue - happens to most ALL fwd cars at one point or another and they are very toe-in sensitive. Truck Rut steer can be violent - especially of you are texting and eating ...
My yaris has electric steering and ECT, No problems. No ABS, thank Joe. Ever try to stop a car on a freezing slushy road with ABS? Smell U Later! WHhhheeeee! CRASH! Now, there is a REAL complaint. ABS + winter roads = no brakes.
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Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Good thing that this affects only corollas, not the camry and other throttle problems ones. Then you could find yourself going 115MPH and then have no steering. Not good!
Very bad when a company with a perceived reputation for quality has trouble with the basics...
-steering
-braking
-throttle
If they cannot get those items right then I don't much trust them to get anything else right either... unfortunately.
Good thing that this affects only corollas, not the camry and other throttle problems ones. Then you could find yourself going 115MPH and then have no steering. Not good!
Very bad when a company with a perceived reputation for quality has trouble with the basics...
-steering
-braking
-throttle
If they cannot get those items right then I don't much trust them to get anything else right either... unfortunately.
Originally Posted By: Paul56
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Good thing that this affects only corollas, not the camry and other throttle problems ones. Then you could find yourself going 115MPH and then have no steering. Not good!
Very bad when a company with a perceived reputation for quality has trouble with the basics...
-steering
-braking
-throttle
If they cannot get those items right then I don't much trust them to get anything else right either... unfortunately.
Paul, don't you get it? It's not Toyota's fault, it's GM's fault that those problems are occurring.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Good thing that this affects only corollas, not the camry and other throttle problems ones. Then you could find yourself going 115MPH and then have no steering. Not good!
Very bad when a company with a perceived reputation for quality has trouble with the basics...
-steering
-braking
-throttle
If they cannot get those items right then I don't much trust them to get anything else right either... unfortunately.
Paul, don't you get it? It's not Toyota's fault, it's GM's fault that those problems are occurring.
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Wait a minute. How many Corolla's do you think Toyota has sold? I don't know, but it's probably in the thousands, and they have had 83 complaints.
Call me a little cautious, but maybe low tire pressure, actual ruts in a road. No sir officer, I have not been drinking, the darn thing just turned left all by itself.
I have to try and apply some common since to this before a Toyota panic sets in. And no, I do not own a Toyota.
At the same time how many people go through the trouble to report the problem.
I would also think that there is a bit of comparing to industry average and comparing reports to see if there is a common occurrence.
Wait a minute. How many Corolla's do you think Toyota has sold? I don't know, but it's probably in the thousands, and they have had 83 complaints.
Call me a little cautious, but maybe low tire pressure, actual ruts in a road. No sir officer, I have not been drinking, the darn thing just turned left all by itself.
I have to try and apply some common since to this before a Toyota panic sets in. And no, I do not own a Toyota.
At the same time how many people go through the trouble to report the problem.
I would also think that there is a bit of comparing to industry average and comparing reports to see if there is a common occurrence.
the govt needs to make back the money it invested in GM and Chrysler, by any means necessary.
You got that right.....
Originally Posted By: EricF
the 747 jumbo jet is a fly-by-wire system, but it has 4 backup systems just in case.
Hopefully all the other automakers will wake up and make sure they have their ducks in a row before they get scrutinzed by the world (again)
Um fly by wire has no direct mechanical linkage at all. So in cars the only thing comparable would be the throttle. The brakes and steering have a direct mechanical linkage. Which have direct input at all times and are only boosted by mechanical or electrical means.
the 747 jumbo jet is a fly-by-wire system, but it has 4 backup systems just in case.
Hopefully all the other automakers will wake up and make sure they have their ducks in a row before they get scrutinzed by the world (again)
Um fly by wire has no direct mechanical linkage at all. So in cars the only thing comparable would be the throttle. The brakes and steering have a direct mechanical linkage. Which have direct input at all times and are only boosted by mechanical or electrical means.
Whoever's in charge of NHTSA probably doesn't want to look like the jerk whose hand was near the alarm button but didn't push it.
It's like a cop who's profiling... walking a beat, hustling known criminals trying to dig up dirt on what new they're up to.
And remember, an investigation does not equal a conviction/recall.
It's like a cop who's profiling... walking a beat, hustling known criminals trying to dig up dirt on what new they're up to.
And remember, an investigation does not equal a conviction/recall.
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Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: opus1
Losing steering control in a car going 40+mph isn't exactly nit-picking now, is it? Really?
What probably helped get the NHTSA more interested in this problem sooner is more the admissions that Toyota hid design flaws with the brakes on the Prius and was alleged to have destroyed documents pertaining to other problems rather than an alleged agenda by competitors.
It's one thing to have a stellar reputation based on actual customer service/caring/etc. It's another to have one because you just haven't been caught until now.....
Toyota has blatantly cheated in the world rally championship in the past, but I don't know if that is a symptom of corporate wide dishonesty. I imagine the pressure to not have problems with a car design during testing and to hold parts costs down has lead to some bad decisions by some bean counters and engineers...
It just shows that even Toyota has to watch that they get the fundamentals right everytime, in the past the big 3 didn't always do this and have learned their lesson. Now its toyota's turn.
Yeah...on the geopolitical stage Canada has done much the same thing. Which is why their currency suffers so poorly.
We do WHAT now?
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: opus1
Losing steering control in a car going 40+mph isn't exactly nit-picking now, is it? Really?
What probably helped get the NHTSA more interested in this problem sooner is more the admissions that Toyota hid design flaws with the brakes on the Prius and was alleged to have destroyed documents pertaining to other problems rather than an alleged agenda by competitors.
It's one thing to have a stellar reputation based on actual customer service/caring/etc. It's another to have one because you just haven't been caught until now.....
Toyota has blatantly cheated in the world rally championship in the past, but I don't know if that is a symptom of corporate wide dishonesty. I imagine the pressure to not have problems with a car design during testing and to hold parts costs down has lead to some bad decisions by some bean counters and engineers...
It just shows that even Toyota has to watch that they get the fundamentals right everytime, in the past the big 3 didn't always do this and have learned their lesson. Now its toyota's turn.
Yeah...on the geopolitical stage Canada has done much the same thing. Which is why their currency suffers so poorly.
We do WHAT now?
The sky is falling....the sky is falling.....
OVERKILL, consider the source.
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Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
OVERKILL, consider the source.
Indeed.
OVERKILL, consider the source.
Indeed.
or consider the cars that you own....
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Originally Posted By: rszappa1
or consider the cars that you own....
I would LOVE to know what you are getting at with that comment.
or consider the cars that you own....
I would LOVE to know what you are getting at with that comment.
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