Amsoil Nano Tech oil Filters

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More news from the DJ convention.


An all NEW and very exciting “EaO” Oil Filter, using nanofiber full synthetic filter element technology, rated at 98.7% efficiency at 15 microns, and this fact is printed on the filter cases as well, will be available for ordering on November 1. This new oil filter will be the replacement for the current SDF line of oil filters which will be phased out over time. The NEW EaO oil filter is rated in passenger car and truck service at 25,000-mile change intervals in both gas and diesel engines using AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils! This product line is EXCLUSIVE to AMSOIL, and NO OTHER COMPANY has a product like this. This product will be available for ordering on November 1, 2005. One exciting filter in this line will be the EaO-88 to fit the new Ford 6.0L Diesel Engine and will be rated at 25,000-mile change intervals in normal service trucks without any engine modifications. There will be NO COMPETITION against this product, and it will be an exclusive to AMSOIL. Dealers should get excited over these products and do some phenomenal selling and as a result make a whole lot more MONEY in their AMSOIL businesses.


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It may be a great filter but Amsoil won't get any of my money due to their MLM. I thjink it's silly that I have to pay them for the privelidge of selling or buying their products.
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Well I think it's silly that you won't support someone who pays to help run this site. End user of an MLM is no differnt than an end user of stuff from walmart. You buy a product and use it, that's all so what does it matter how it's marketed?
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...End user of an MLM is no differnt than an end user of stuff from walmart. You buy a product and use it, that's all so what does it matter how it's marketed?
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Because I don't pay WM for the 'priviledge' of shopping there..

Amsoil is a great product, but thier marketing just plain sux. Pay a high price for the product, then pay for the 'priviledge' of even buying it, then listen to the rep say how he doesnt make any money off of it....
As for the 'silly you won't support someone that supports this site', take into consideration the advertising YOUR getting off here, Bitog makes nothing from that.

I am anxious, however to see this new wonder, and may buy one just to cut it open and see what it is made of. I wonder how it will compare to the M1 filter?
 
A nanofiber is less than one micron in diameter. A human hair is 80 microns.

The filter uses synthetic spun media. Kind of like spiderweb material.(That's my personal analgy) It's strong, and really small.

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Because I don't pay WM for the 'priviledge' (sic) of shopping there.
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You sure do. WM's margins may be thin, but they seem to make a LOT of money off people. I don't understand this hatred for Amsoil marketing. It's like you don't see the other oil companies zonked crazy commercials with made up words and complete **, but every word from Amsoil is analyzed 3 times over. Amsoil's distribution and sales strategy are surgically analyzed by people that know absolutely nothing of the cutthroat world of retail marketing and the associated supply chain - but happily throw their money at it.

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advertising YOUR getting off here, Bitog makes nothing from that.
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Hate to break the news, but MS and I are not here for free. WE pay a healthy sponsor fee.

Back on subject - good SEM photo MS. I'd love to see the new AF's done in a real controlled shoot out.
 
Sounds like a great filter. I just have a couple questions.

Your image shows stuff labled "cellulose". So this filter is a blended cellulose/synthetic media. Right? Not that there is anything wrong with that. Just trying to get the facts Mam.

And about that efficiency rating. Is that single pass or the double pass rating. Or is it a non-standard rating method?

Are these filters going to have a greater filter element area than the old SDF filters?
 
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Originally posted by Ken2:
Who's making these filters for Amsoil?...Clarcor (Baldwin/Hastings)?...Donaldson?


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I'm thinking maybe wix? From what I understand we will have the wix line where there is no Amsoil product. As of now, hastings is gone, No more.
 
My guess is that this is the same technology as the air filters made by Donaldson posted about in the air fitler section.

My question is, how is the flow. Generally when it comes to a filter, better filtration equals less flow. How are they filtering so much better without a huge drop in flow, or are they?

Do we have any directly comparable numbers to other filters?
 
So if this filter is good for 25k, does that mean Amsoil will no longer recommend changing the oil filter every 6 months? That would save a lot of time for people if they could run both the oil and the filter for one year/25k. A lot of people already run their oil filters for one full year anyhow, but having this new filter will give them added peace of mind. It sounds like a good product, their SDF line is already extremely good, so I'm sure these will be even better.
 
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Originally posted by Pablo:
You sure do. WM's margins may be thin, but they seem to make a LOT of money off people. I don't understand this hatred for Amsoil marketing. It's like you don't see the other oil companies zonked crazy commercials with made up words and complete **, but every word from Amsoil is analyzed 3 times over. Amsoil's distribution and sales strategy are surgically analyzed by people that know absolutely nothing of the cutthroat world of retail marketing and the associated supply chain - but happily throw their money at it.
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Wal mart does not charge 'extra' for getting a dealer price or thier employee discount. Amsoils' 'surgically anilysed' sales methods are like that because there is alot of 'misinformation' (especially) on the internet written by Amsoil dealers that steer you towards thier product as if your car will die without it. (remember 'the motor oil bible? -- Written by an AMSOIL saleman)I know, being in the business you have heard "oh, no, another Amsoil-based oil-info site".

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Hate to break the news, but MS and I are not here for free. WE pay a healthy sponsor fee.
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From what I understand, BITOG is a not-for-profit site, meaning no one gets paid for thier 'work' on maintaining and keeping it up. Since that is the case, Your sponsor fee only goes to maintaining the extra costs associated with linking, creating avitars, etc. In other words, your paying for your own advertising, nothing more. I may be mistaken on that part, but seeing it (not-for-profit/runs on donations only) described on here, and knowing admins do not get paid for thier work, You may see what I (and possibly others) see.

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Back on subject - good SEM photo MS. I'd love to see the new AF's done in a real controlled shoot out.
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I am wondering if they will clog faster than normal? We currently are using scavenge oil filters on our aircraft with a 3 micron (!) rating...and they are bypassing much quicker than the 15M's we had previously been using.And how would this fare in an environment that is in use longer than other recommendations for filters?
 
Some questions. How consistant is this material? Do they tell you the size of the largest particles that will go through the media? Does this better material force the filter into bypass mode more often than the previous filter? Is Amsoil going to step up to Fram standards and publish beta particle test results? And do they have a bar chart like the 4-ball stuff to tell where the new filter stands in relation to other manfacturers?
 
Tim, without site sponsors, this site would not exist. You can say what you want about Amsoil's marketing, but give Pablo and MSparks a break, they have supported this site since it's inception. BTW, nice filter, Joe
 
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Originally posted by msparks:
A nanofiber is less than one micron in diameter. A human hair is 80 microns.

The filter uses synthetic spun media. Kind of like spiderweb material.(That's my personal analgy) It's strong, and really small.

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Donaldson has used "spun wound" synthetic media for years in their oil filter and hydraulic offerings. There is also a "melt blown" version of synthetic media.

From what I understand of what sythentic fibers are, they are short fibers ( for lack of a better term) "molded and controlled" into specific pore size openings. This allows for a better distribution of pore size than cellulose or a cellulose blend.

"Nano" fibers are used in medical biology fields for filter purposes as an example. I was curious how "sub micron" technology was applied into an oil filter element. Because of restriction and relief valve openings....any filter which used "Nano" technology would get my interest as to viability.

I would guess that what really happens is the the "Nano" business is nothing more than a ( again best guess description) wrap around the melt blown or spun wound fiber itself. Therefore one could "claim" Nano technology.

If the web of "Nano" fibers, as pictured, is between the melt blown or spun wound fibers so that it fills the gaps between the fibers themselves, that would be of interest as to the viability for oil filtration purposes..to me.
 
I think the frustration is that Amsoil Products can't be purchased at stores like Walmart, Bi-Mart, Napa, etc...

As for a new synthetic nano filter product.....GREAT, really hope it works.

Does Amsoil have any "Real World" testing on this oil filter? Looking forward to seeing testing by BITOG Folks.
 
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