Amsoil 5-30 Dodge 4.7 Durango almost 12k

[LargeCarMan]

TBN is down to 3.23 with about 12K on oil, how long until you feel it needs changing out and what are your comments/concerns about analysis. Thanks LCM


Comp. Descr.: 4.7L ENGINE Fuel Type: Gasoline 2206 WINTER STREET
SUPERIOR, WI 54880
(715)395-0222
FAX (715)392-3097
Make: Oil Brand: AMSOIL
Model: Oil Type:
Customer No:Equip. Make: DODGE Fluid Grade: 5W30 End User:
Unit No: Equip. Model: DURANGO Ser.No: End Loc:
SPECTROCHEMICAL ANALYSIS (ppm)
Lab No
Condition Date
Taken
Tested Time on Oil
Time on Unit
114103
Normal 17-MAY-06
30-MAY-06 10628
60699 24
1
0
20
0
8
0
0
17
176
0
27
3546
0
912
1192
87
0
0
0

Lab No Physical Properties Additional Tests
Fuel Visc40 Visc100 Water Soot/
Solids Coolant CHANGE NITR OXID TBN
114103
N/A
12.45
0
N/A
NO
NO
23.0
19.0
3.23


Lab No Brand Grade Product Analysis Recommendations
114103 AMSOIL 5W30 NO CORRECTIVE ACTION REQUIRED, OIL IS SUITABLE FOR CONTINUED USE. RESAMPLE AT NEXT REGULAR INTERVAL

Since services are based on samples and information supplied by others, and since corrective action, if any, is necessarily taken by others, these services
are rendered without any warranty or liability of any kind beyond the actual amount paid to Staveley Services North America for the services.

 

[The Critic]

Looks fine to me. I'd change the oil now as the TBN is nearly exhausted, and the viscosity is rising.

It is generally difficult to extend drains past 10-12K in V8 engines given the contamination that occurs, from what I've been told.

Otherwise, it looks fine to me and the oil held its viscosity quite well.

[ June 07, 2006, 01:26 AM: Message edited by: The Critic ]

 

[LargeCarMan]

Ok, sorry...

iron 24
chro 1
lead 0
copper 20

so on so forth...vsc 100=12.45

Nitr 23
Oxid 19
Tbn 3.23

 

[ConfederateTyrant]

LargeCarMan, is this the SM formulation or the SL formulation? How long was this in service?

 

[Gary Allan]

15k should work for the TBN ..maybe more. I'm uncertain what test Oil Analysers uses for TBN

..but either test ..it's still good for a while.

You're peaked on the 30 weight level. Where does this oil start out at??

 

[Pablo]

Not to nit pick....but are we supposed to guess the elements........

Cr 1
Pb 0
Cu 20
Sn 0
Fe 8
Ti 0
0
Si 17
B 176
0
Mo 27
Ca 3546
0
P 912
Zn 1192
87?
0
0

 

[LargeCarMan]

Sorry...I was pooped...tired guy.

It was the ASL Sm version of 5-20 Amsoil with the following. In the 11,000 and some change range miliage and a Eao full flow filter. Total miliage is in the 66,000 range on this engine.

Iron 24, Chrom 1, Lead 0, Copper 20, Tin 0, Alum 8,Nickel 0,Silver 0, Silicon 17, Boron 176, Sodium 0, Mag 27, Calc 3,546, Bar 0,Phos 912,Zinc1,192 Moly 87.

Vsc 100=12.45 Nitr 23, Oxid 19, Tbn 3.23

Pablo, for some reason the copy to paste did not work right and I was too tired to care. I thought the standard elements were in a row and the numbers would match...mebad.

 

[buster]

Did you mean 5w30? Doesn't look like an Amsoil additive package.....Moly? Boron? Ca? Plus, ZDDP is too high for SM. Are you sure it's Amsoil? When is the last time you had too many drinks?

 

[LargeCarMan]

Wow...I need some food or sleep...sorry, yes 5-30. I just had a beer? No that can't be it!

Yes, Amsoil ASL SM/Cf,SL 5-30, could Analysers Inc/Staveley Services make a mistake?

 

[LargeCarMan]

I just had a thought....

What if my friend bought the XLM 5-30..I have emailed him to ask him to check the bottles.

Or

Package Mislabel?

On beer number 2 now so hurry up!

 

[LargeCarMan]

buster, I have been checking the UOA sections and it falls in line with other Amsoil adpacks?

Have not heard back from my friend, but that would be crazy if the XLM was the oil and is OK @ almost 12K

Pablo, ever here of a mislabling mistake with a batch and bottles/labels over in Superior?

 

[Pablo]

Doesn't really match any Amsoil motor oil....what kind of oil before?

 

[LargeCarMan]

He had Mobil 1 in it, but the Amsoil has been running for some time now. 1st change to Amsoil about 11,600 miles ago. He just confirmed SL/SJ/CF Amsoil 5-30. This is getting weird.

 

[Gary Allan]

iron 24
chro 1
lead 0
copper 20

 

[Pablo]

Oh thanks Gary - I missed the next post down....what about the rest....but still this UOA posting leaves....
how hard.....well enough said.....I'll keep my big mouth shut.

 

[Pablo]

Did he top up with a different oil?

Kinda looks like M1....

 

[LargeCarMan]

I just fould out he had Havoline full-synthetic in it when he switched to Amsoil. He ran the whole time with Amsoil and never needed to top off. Would a small bit...say 1/4 qt left in the engine asquew the lab results? Pardon the spelling.

 

[Dick in Falls Church]

Well, when one is talking about parts per million--

Can detect an ounce of vermouth in a swimming pool full of gin!

That is not a scientific definition