“Ford Dials Down V8 F-150 Production Amid Weak Demand“

[xxch4osxx]

Originally Posted by E365
^ +1

I'm amazed so many people are still frightened half-to-death of a modern turbo. They're reliable, cheap and make tons of power and torque. I'd never buy another car that WASN'T a turbo.

Last I looked a new turbo for a 2.7 EcoBoost from a dealer is under $400.


That is a pretty good price for a turbo. The high pressure and low pressure turbos on the truck I drive at work had to be replaced about a month ago. Cost for replacement with reman turbos was $5,500 Cat wanted $4,000 for just the high pressure turbo!!

 

[4WD]

Agree … and it would be helpful if folks could keep the dialogue in the same class for relative comparison … 18 wheelers ? I run several 6000-7000 HP CAT engines … but that has nothing to do with my preference for owning GM pushrod engines. My friend is regional manager for CAT … his mechanics drive F350/450 Ford's while he drives Chevy 1500's … That's what they both want …
Buy and drive what you prefer for what you do … they are all making lots of power these days …

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted by jcartwright99
Originally Posted by AC1DD
Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Unfortunate. The naturally aspirated V8 should be more reliable down the road.

Absolutely correct.

I think this could hurt Ford in the long run, since disgruntled customers won't be loyal if their turbo engine blows up early on.


Unfortunately, old thinking like this won't die. If this were an old carbed V8 of old you might be right, but all V8's these days are pretty sophisticated. There are a ton of computer controlled aspects of these V8's that have a lot engineering behind it. Ecoboost 3.5 has been in F150's since 2011 and it's now on it's second generation. If you think Ford hasn't brutally tested these engines you are nuts. Putting a turbo on something doesn't always mean they are less reliable. You need to remember diesels in heavy duty trucks have turbo's too and those can easily get 500k on them.



Diesel is a lot different from gas..

Diesel engines:
Turbos don't turn as fast and are subjected to less exhaust heat. (gas burns hotter)
Closed deck engine blocks with forged internals. (Are Ford ecoboost open deck?)
Turn at a much lower rpm.



And far as reliability the Ecoboost is one of the most reliable engines in production.

 

[Hounds]

Originally Posted by dave1251
. . . And far as reliability the Ecoboost is one of the most reliable engines in production.

True. And both the 3.5 and the 2.7 (the faster of the two, amazingly enough) pull like locomotives.

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted by E365
^ +1

I'm amazed so many people are still frightened half-to-death of a modern turbo. They're reliable, cheap and make tons of power and torque. I'd never buy another car that WASN'T a turbo.

Last I looked a new turbo for a 2.7 EcoBoost from a dealer is under $400.


The big V8 is more pleasant, many people understand this.

The V6 turbo 2.7 is a gem of an engine, but it has all of the characteristics of turbocharged engines. I have the 3.5EB, the 2.7EB and the V8. In all around use, the V8 is way more pleasant

 

[MNgopher]

In your opinion. I own a 2.7, drive a 5.0 at work. I prefer the 2.7. The only thing I miss from the V8 is the engine sound.

The beautiful thing is we all can buy what we like.

 

[CT8]

The 6.2 V8 in the F250 and F350 though a gas pig in comparison to the 5.0 has a better feel and sound.

 

[Tdog02]

Just wait till the 7.3 gas godzilla shows up. I wouldn't expect much in the way of mileage out of that monster.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted by Tdog02
Just wait till the 7.3 gas godzilla shows up. I wouldn't expect much in the way of mileage out of that monster.



It won't be a F150 option.

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by Tdog02
Just wait till the 7.3 gas godzilla shows up. I wouldn't expect much in the way of mileage out of that monster.



It won't be a F150 option.


There is always hope it will show up in the Raptor.