Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - Lubegard
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Ester oils really are that good for engines. The future though is what people will market and then buy.
Adding ester oil to engine oil DIY idea
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Ester oils really are that good for engines. The future though is what people will market and then buy.
Well color me surprised. Who knew mixing in an ester oil could create lots of marketing material that appears to say much, but actually says very little if anything at all?Here is what mixing in an ester oil can do for engines. They call it the "lubrication system of the future."Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - Lubegard
Ester oils really are that good for engines. The future though is what people will market and then buy.
I particularly liked this excerpt from that page
So they say these tests should not be used to compare products......but wait, their product is so good in comparison based on these tests.
That marketing material, if you actually read it, makes very specific, scientifically validated claims, and backs them up. It actually says quite a lot if you read it.
It does not say that at all. It says the very specific test they are citing is not an endorsement of the brands of motor oil in the test. It's in black and white if you read it.
Last I checked Lubegard didn't market their Bio/Tech as a compressor oil; regardless of soluble moly or esters.Here is what mixing in an ester oil can do for engines. They call it the "lubrication system of the future."Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - Lubegard
Ester oils really are that good for engines. The future though is what people will market and then buy.
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So where it says "these tests" it means one specific test.
And where it says "....does not compare, endorse, or advise comparison...." they only meant does not endorse and do compare and advise comparison.
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MolaKule
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In their SDS it specifically says this:
Section 1. IDENTIFICATION Product Name: ESTERCOOL OIL
Product # 2408-2432-2439-2455
Product Use : LUBRICANT FOR AUTOMOTIVE AIR CONDITIONING
Can't get much "plainer" than that
Mannol Ester additive 9929
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MANNOL Ester Additive
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Many things are used 'off label'. The label here means nothing negative for mechanical engine use. All that label says is what the product is sold for.In their SDS it specifically says this:
Section 1. IDENTIFICATION Product Name: ESTERCOOL OIL
Product # 2408-2432-2439-2455
Product Use : LUBRICANT FOR AUTOMOTIVE AIR CONDITIONING
Can't get much "plainer" than that
A compressor is very similar to an engine, both compress and pump things under high pressures and heat.
Missing 'x' additive package does not matter, ester oils eat dried hard carbon, soften seals, plate out and coat metal objects to reduce friction.
Your not using this ester oil exclusively. And I doubt this company makes their own base ester oil stocks, they get it from another oil company who will also sell ester oils for blending into other engine oils.
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The ester mixes with the refrigerants, while R12 mixes with mineral oil and R134a with PAG. It's very important in AC systems to use an oil that mixes with the refrigerants. POE also mixes with R-1234yf.
In that scenario the oils don't need to mix.
MolaKule
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Then you seriously need to study mechanical engineering, Ester characteristics, and Internal Combustion Engines. Have you fed a combustible hydrocarbon into a compressor? I think not. Fuel combustion creates all kinds of byproducts whereas a compressor only has to compress the incoming air.
Your analogies are not really analogies because you are cannot make scientific/technical comparisons between disparate applications.
Pouring this stuff into an engine does DILUTE the DI (additive) package which is there to prevent corrosion, oxidation, and wear.
You still have not given us a valid engineering/technical reason for adding this stuff to your engine oil, so until you do, further posting by you without a valid engineering/technical reason shows a complete lack of understanding of chemical and mechanical interactions on your part.
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MolaKule
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And it doesn't mean anything positive for other applications.
MolaKule
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What does this sentence have to do with you showing us a valid technical reason for mixing ESTERCOOL with engine oil?
I’m “almost” tempted to tap a can of NOS R12 into my engine oil - should be the same effect in reverse
I'm getting 5 quarts of PAG oil for my next oil change, all ester good stuff for my engine. After all oil is oil. I'll also add a quart or 2 in my next atf drain and fill.
You should throw a can or 2 in your trans too. PAG oil is all ester so it will make your trans last 5 million miles and run 100 degrees coolerI’m “almost” tempted to tap a can of NOS R12 into my engine oil - should be the same effect in reverse
Only makes sense that it would make the engine run cooler.
I would.
But I have no idea how my certified & approved '93 vintage R12 cans would mix with my non certified & non approved Amsoil SS ATF & Amsoil SS 15w40.
Perhaps some kind soul in this thread would explain the mysteries of non certified fluids?
My thoughts exactly, larger freon molecules & allOnly makes sense that it would make the engine run cooler.
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