7 states that Tax you the hardest.

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
Here in North Carolina we have had an influx of people moving from up North. A lot of them are ready to vote for higher taxes at any opportunity.



Never understood that. People have this strange illusion that doing so will solve problems. When the opposite is true. Humans are amazing animals.


Humans are also social animals who realize that cooperation solves problems; so cooperating - if even inefficiently and indirectly (read: electing others to do the thinking, deciding and acting/ spending on their behalf) - often seems somehow more "right" than the alternatives.

 

[rjundi]

Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Its better to pay higher taxes and your kids go to much better school(s) than to pay lower taxes and they end up in a slum trashy school district.



Agreed. My sis and bro in law have a $100k mortgage in a beautiful on surface New England town. They spend $1000/year in taxes and old folks who out number younger vote down improvements to education. The problem is local schools are so bad they send their kids to a private school for two kids = $15k/year!!!! The nearest store is 20 mins away and grocery/drug store 30 minutes.

I will take my $7k/year taxes and 5 min drive to everything anyday.

 

[javacontour]

Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
Here in North Carolina we have had an influx of people moving from up North. A lot of them are ready to vote for higher taxes at any opportunity.



Never understood that. People have this strange illusion that doing so will solve problems. When the opposite is true. Humans are amazing animals.


Humans are also social animals who realize that cooperation solves problems; so cooperating - if even inefficiently and indirectly (read: electing others to do the thinking, deciding and acting/ spending on their behalf) - often seems somehow more "right" than the alternatives.


Except when they don't work together. Our community recently voted down a school tax increase. Instead of combining the two K-8 districts, they wanted a tax increase. One district has only one elementary school and one middle school. The other has 3 elementary and two middle schools. Then there is yet another district for the high school.

They could probably flatten that by one or two districts instead of asking tax payers who just experienced the 67% income tax increase.

 

[Pablo]

More taxes don't always mean better schools. Yes it takes a decent amount of money, but more and more money for the football team and the kids are still slipping.......in fact it's not always a direct link with $=intelligence. Sure high end school districts tend to have more intelligent kids, but is that really because of $? Or genetics? Some median level funded districts outscore some top $ districts.

 

[eljefino]

Even if you yourself don't have kids it would be nice to fund the schools so you don't have a bunch of idiots around you in society.

As an example if you take your car in and an idiot misdiagnoses it and throws parts at it, neither you nor he knows a bunch of your money was just wasted.

Or multiply your problems by 1000 if that idiot is your doctor.

Real estate/school taxes eclipse my income tax, car tax, sales tax etc combined. Believe only social security is more in my household. Am okay with it b/c I believe that existence on this planet comes with a fixed price. But, jeez, it stings. I don't escrow it and have to toddle down to the town hall 2x a year.

 

[rjundi]

Originally Posted By: Pablo
More taxes don't always mean better schools.


Agreed, I think our community and other with $$$-$$$$ real estate is a filter. The good part is you don't have as many kids distracting the others and bringing the place down. I can only imagine how worn out you get as an educator with poorly parented kids.

 

[jimbrewer]

Originally Posted By: Rand
fairly worthless fluff article.

so many things it doesnt deal with.

example

akron ohio .. 80k house .. about 2300$/year

5.6 miles south 130k house.. 1500$/year

the article is overgeneralized and you can draw no conclusions whatsoever from it.


Yeah it is a worthless fluff article. Know which state taxes the highest percentage of the value of a median priced house? Texas. Not New Jersey or New York. They have a huge agricultural exemption, so the wealthy and even corporations exempt themselves by living on ranches.

A lot of people don't know that Arkansas has one of the higher income tax rates in the United States.

New Hampshire has neither an income tax nor a sales tax, so they make it up with a huge corporate income tax and property taxes. Each state has education, Medicaid and prison expenses. there's ways to rearrange the tax burden this way or that, but there's not as much room to maneuver as people believe.

 

[Truckedup]

I live on 10 acres in a rural area of Western NY state.My place would be worth about 200K bucks. My property taxes are $4200 a year and that includes a veteran and retired tax discount. 8 percent sales tax,state income tax,breathing tax,it's endless. In return we have [censored] roads and a crumbling infrastructural. School system is decent,but I have no kids in school....
Why am I here????????????????????????

You guys in Texas and the South.....in 20 years will be just like the east...high taxes and wall to wall people....

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: Pablo
More taxes don't always mean better schools.


Agreed, I think our community and other with $$$-$$$$ real estate is a filter. The good part is you don't have as many kids distracting the others and bringing the place down. I can only imagine how worn out you get as an educator with poorly parented kids.


That is 75% of the reason my Dad left teaching YEARS ago. Things have only got worse since.

 

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: rjundi
I can only imagine how worn out you get as an educator with poorly parented kids.


If a teacher gets "worn out" by kids who need more help than others because they don't have proper guidance at home, then teaching is absolutely the wrong profession for them.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more

If a teacher gets "worn out" by kids who need more help than others because they don't have proper guidance at home, then teaching is absolutely the wrong profession for them.


WOW!

 

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
WOW!

You took the time to respond to a post in which you clearly find flaw, but didn't exactly "respond" - Can you explain a bit further? Maybe I'm missing something...

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
Originally Posted By: rjundi
I can only imagine how worn out you get as an educator with poorly parented kids.


If a teacher gets "worn out" by kids who need more help than others because they don't have proper guidance at home, then teaching is absolutely the wrong profession for them.


That is the reason my mom keeps teaching.

She could be [censored] and whining on a motor oil forum about how [censored] up society is, complaining about how she has to pay her own salary through taxes..........ahh, screw it.

I honestly don't know how public school teachers keep doing it.

 

[Spazdog]

Originally Posted By: Truckedup
I live on 10 acres in a rural area of Western NY state.My place would be worth about 200K bucks. My property taxes are $4200 a year and that includes a veteran and retired tax discount. 8 percent sales tax,state income tax,breathing tax,it's endless. In return we have [censored] roads and a crumbling infrastructural. School system is decent,but I have no kids in school....
Why am I here????????????????????????

You guys in Texas and the South.....in 20 years will be just like the east...high taxes and wall to wall people....


Wall to wall people?

Sheesh! We already have two Metropolitan areas with greater populations than all of Massachusetts. We have like 6 different counties with greater populations than New Hampshire.

Taxes? I don't know. The political climate is slowly changing but I think talking about more taxes is akin to talking about gun control in Texas. It's political career suicide. You say, "I'm going to raise taxes." as an elected official you are really saying, "Don't elect me again."

It could happen, but it ain't gonna' be easy.

 

[Mr Nice]

She probably keeps teaching for the benefits / pension.

Just like many Americans, everyday they tell themselves...
I only have to put in ____ more years until I retire.

Kind of like the guy in the Dunkin Donuts commercials in the 1980-1990's.
He hated his job but woke up and went to work.

 

[mechanicx]

I'm against property tax on a homestead or vehicle. Owning a house or vehicle does not bring you revenue and shouldn't be taxed. Tax should be placed on revenue and income, not on private property like a home or vehicle.

 

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
I honestly don't know how public school teachers keep doing it.


Caring and compassion, and a sense of duty and responsibility towards our culture's children are immense sources of strength and courage. I saw a comic the other day that pointed out that teaching is the only job where you steal things from home to bring into work.

The narcissistic self-centredness that is evident by some of the posts here leads one to "burn out" when they don't get what they want. These are usually also the very people who complain about how messed up "society" is; as it also does not conform to their view.

 

[javacontour]

The irony is you are saying how teachers should be and if they don't conform to your view, they are messed up.

Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
I honestly don't know how public school teachers keep doing it.


Caring and compassion, and a sense of duty and responsibility towards our culture's children are immense sources of strength and courage. I saw a comic the other day that pointed out that teaching is the only job where you steal things from home to bring into work.

The narcissistic self-centredness that is evident by some of the posts here leads one to "burn out" when they don't get what they want. These are usually also the very people who complain about how messed up "society" is; as it also does not conform to their view.

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
Here in North Carolina we have had an influx of people moving from up North. A lot of them are ready to vote for higher taxes at any opportunity.

Never understood that. People have this strange illusion that doing so will solve problems. When the opposite is true. Humans are amazing animals.

In N.J. people grip about high property taxes yet public school budgets, which comprise roughly 60-70% of the municipal property tax bite, routinely pass when on the ballot.


Sure, let's just throw more money into it!

It's up to the voters to realize that their elected officials imagine them to be a bottomless well full of moolah for them to simply plunder every time they run short.

The bigger cities are astonishingly poor or completely bankrupt. It's a travesty of poor management that someone should be held accountable for.
How true, the liberal thinks "there's always more money to be had, so long as you think up a good bullbleep line to justify grabing it". Internet sales tax????? Well, it's all abour "fairness" got it? Not more money with which to buy votes from the hand out seekers.

 

[Kestas]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
I'm against property tax on a homestead or vehicle. Owning a house or vehicle does not bring you revenue and shouldn't be taxed. Tax should be placed on revenue and income, not on private property like a home or vehicle.

I'll have to disagree. The homeowner receives services in the form of fire, police, street maintenance, parks, and public property maintenance. These services are quite expensive and the money to pay for these services has to come from somewhere. It should be proportional to the property you own. It seems fair to me.