2014 Ford Focus ST Redline's Break in oil question

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2014 Ford Focus ST with a 2.0l Four cylinder Direct Injection Turbo Charged Motor.

Factory Fill: Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w30 (I think 5w30)
Factory Filter: Motorcraft

I brought the car home and immediately added half a bottle of Redline's Break-in oil additive and have driven the car 1000 miles.

This sunday im going to be dumping the factory fill and installing a Purolator PureONE PL20195 and 6 quarts of Pennzoil Ultra for its awesome NOACK levels. I also plan to bolster this with the remainder of the Redline Oil additive and drive it either until 3000 or 5000 miles.

Thoughts?
 
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Sounds perfect to me
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disregard any other opinions.
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you don't need all that zinc your overdoing it in my opinion.I would only add 1/3 to a flat tappet engine.Thats if your talking about the cam supplement
 
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Originally Posted By: Voltmaster
Aside from buying an American? your doing fine.
Its a lease anyway right?


I commend him for buying from an American company.
 
It's up to you...


My advice from my friends who work at the factory where they are BUILT- Wait a few weeks first, take the car for a few freeway drives. Redline will be fine. FF has a few things in there too....

But PU will work great...they are very fun cars!
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Sounds fine to me. But you really don't need the additive.

Also, where are all the "void your warranty" people this AM??? What is so different than running a non-API listed oil?
 
Originally Posted By: Ayrton
I'd put in the Ultra and let it be. No reason to add anything to that.

Nice car!


+1 PU and done for 5k! I just did my friends oil in her new Acadia DI 6. Changed FFF at 2k and now she's on a 5k 5-30 synthetic diet and 5k OCI.
 
Originally Posted By: DevilsRule
Originally Posted By: Voltmaster
Aside from buying an American? your doing fine.
Its a lease anyway right?


I commend him for buying from an American company.


+2

Buy what makes you happy, domestic or otherwise.

That said, the additive is not needed in the least. I'd skip it.

Ohmmaster would do well to get the fundamentals of punctuation down before attempting uninformed snark.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Also, where are all the "void your warranty" people this AM??? What is so different than running a non-API listed oil?


I don't see the OP claiming to "meet or exceed"...if something happens with his plan, and Ford cotton on, then he's on his own
 
Originally Posted By: Donald
If its a lease why are you doing anything special? Use PYB and follow the owners manual.


If he is like me he may buy out the lease at the end and keep it. I have done that on my last 3 leases.
 
IMHO, I would not add anything to PU; it is not needed and nothing will be gained by attempting to "tweak" it with an additive especially for a 3 or 5K OCI. If warranty is an issue for you, I would stick with Motorcraft filters until it has expired. MC filters are top notch so there is no risk to the engine by using them--there is no risk to the engine using any other filter, just a risk to the warranty if something goes wrong and you become embroiled in a "warranty battle".
 
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
IMHO, I would not add anything to PU; it is not needed and nothing will be gained by attempting to "tweak" it with an additive especially for a 3 or 5K OCI. If warranty is an issue for you, I would stick with Motorcraft filters until it has expired. MC filters are top notch so there is no risk to the engine by using them--there is no risk to the engine using any other filter, just a risk to the warranty if something goes wrong and you become embroiled in a "warranty battle".


PU additive package is weak for break in. Nothing will go wrong. Its actually the best break in procedure possible. Get the metal shavings out early and refill with an oil (in this case a supplimented oil) appropriate for break in. It gives him a longer "plating" period with lower wear metals in the oil.
I have lots of friends who will do 2 or 3 ocis with break in oil at 500 miles in a newly built engine. Its really a good thing when you have a flat tappet too. Maybe a little overkill for todays engines but it certainly wont hurt
 
Originally Posted By: jamesyarbrough
PU additive package is weak for break in.

In a 2014 vehicle? Prove it! Since the car came with a synthetic blend as a FF (Motorcraft), there is NO way that Pennzoil Ultra is not good enough "out of the bottle". I agree with removing the break-in metals early, I did it in my 2014 Explorer, but to say that PU needs anything added to it to make it good enough for break-in when used in a 2014 engine is quite frankly balderdash! Try telling that to Ferrari...
 
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Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
Originally Posted By: jamesyarbrough
PU additive package is weak for break in.

In a 2014 vehicle? Prove it! Since the car came with a synthetic blend as a FF (Motorcraft), there is NO way that Pennzoil Ultra is not good enough "out of the bottle". I agree with removing the break-in metals early, I did it in my 2014 Explorer, but to say that PU needs anything added to it to make it good enough for break-in when used in a 2014 engine is quite frankly balderdash! Try telling that to Ferrari...


Jeeze dont get all upset. The FACT is that zinc and phosphorus levels are both under 1000 PPM. As far as break in oils go thats nothing. It may very well be overkill for a roller cam engine, to have higher levels than that but some people like a lot of ZDDP on break in whether its needed or not.

15 years ago no one used break in oil because SL oils had around 1200 ppm of zinc. But now on the same engines people use an oil with double that amount and it actually shows increased engine life. So yeah as far as break in oil PU sucks! Too little ZDDP and way too much detergent. Whether this application needs a break in oil or just a PCMO is irrelevant. Its what the owner wants for added insurance of proper break in.

Dont get broken hearted just cause someone wants to use a ZDDP additive with PU for a short break in run. It wont hurt and Pennzoil makes more oil everyday.
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Btw im sure Ferrari doesnt use American 5w30. Apples and oranges
 
Well all this said, the oil change went smooth.

The factory fill oil was GREEN, which at first concerned me until I did some reading and this is apparently a common thing on newer fords, I snapped some pics if anyone wants to see.

I did end up using the rest of (1\2) the Redline Break in Oil Additive in the PU, figure it wont hurt anything regardless.

I will say this, the Factory fill oil was like water, and since I changed it the engine is (I am reluctant to say such...unverifiable things) noticeably quieter.

Two other things to mention, i'm not sure where this lease thing came from, I own the vehicle.

Second, this is my first american car, I've owned Nissans, Toyotas and Subarus, including two STi's from Subaru one was brand new.

In terms of creature comforts the ford is easily the firm winner, interior feels much more up-class, assuming this vehicle holds up in the long run, this Focus will be a good purchase.
 
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Factory fills are not always shelf oil. I was reading the other day about a green dealer oil. Something about blacklight leak detection but I dont know if it has anything to do with this.

Maybe one of the elders will chime in
 
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