2013 Honda CR-V break-in oil

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I have a new CRV. My intent was to put IF WS2 in the oil after break-in.

I just read a post that said the factory break-in oil had a very high Moly content. That is absolutely not what I want in the engine. It will plate to surfaces that I want the WS2 to plate.

First - is that true?

Second - Is there any reason not to immediately replace the break-in oil with an oil with an IF WS2 component? Does the break-in oil do anything else but provide a bunch of Moly?
 
Leave the break in oil in! Dont change it until the MM tells you too. No need for any other additives after that.
 
Originally Posted By: alternety
I have a new CRV. My intent was to put IF WS2 in the oil after break-in.

I just read a post that said the factory break-in oil had a very high Moly content. That is absolutely not what I want in the engine. It will plate to surfaces that I want the WS2 to plate.

First - is that true?

Second - Is there any reason not to immediately replace the break-in oil with an oil with an IF WS2 component? Does the break-in oil do anything else but provide a bunch of Moly?


There is a large dose of Moly as well as other additives which are not specified by Honda.

Why would you think that Honda doesn't know how best to create one of the most high quality, dependable, and durable engine, versus some aftermarket company product?

Leave the FF in until the MM tells you to change it out.
 
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: alternety
I have a new CRV. My intent was to put IF WS2 in the oil after break-in.

I just read a post that said the factory break-in oil had a very high Moly content. That is absolutely not what I want in the engine. It will plate to surfaces that I want the WS2 to plate.

First - is that true?

Second - Is there any reason not to immediately replace the break-in oil with an oil with an IF WS2 component? Does the break-in oil do anything else but provide a bunch of Moly?


There is a large dose of Moly as well as other additives which are not specified by Honda.

Why would you think that Honda doesn't know how best to create one of the most high quality, dependable, and durable engine, versus some aftermarket company product?

Leave the FF in until the MM tells you to change it out.


Exactly!
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Funny that it seems Honda owners ask this the most.


I've noticed this as well. I wonder why?

For the record, I ran my FF until the MM told me to change it, and I'm quickly coming up on 250K trouble free miles.
 
Originally Posted By: alternety
I have a new CRV. My intent was to put IF WS2 in the oil after break-in.

I just read a post that said the factory break-in oil had a very high Moly content. That is absolutely not what I want in the engine. It will plate to surfaces that I want the WS2 to plate.

First - is that true?

Second - Is there any reason not to immediately replace the break-in oil with an oil with an IF WS2 component? Does the break-in oil do anything else but provide a bunch of Moly?


Keep the FF in and stay away from WS2 - NOT NEEDED
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Funny that it seems Honda owners ask this the most.


Just Honda Noobs

What is WS-2
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Funny that it seems Honda owners ask this the most.


I would say it's likely because of how strongly people feel about leaving in the Honda FF. A lot of people are used to changing early, so it's hard to leave it in 8-10K. I do agree that leaving the FF in won't do harm(used to think differently). I changed mine at 5K, which I felt was "early", but it's the longest I've went on a FF before.

OP, I really don't see the need for WS2. But if you insist; leave the FF in for at least 5K and do whatever you would like after that. Moly is a good thing, don't sweat it! Mos2 moly will plate, but it will wear off if not regularly used.
 
Originally Posted By: atlanta_shooter
I would leave the FF in, see if the dealer would allow me to return it and go buy a 2014 Mazda CX-5 2.5L.
wow.. Way to make a extremely negative 1st post..
 
You have a brand new vehicle that Honda invested $$$ in engineering the most reliable and efficient power plant they could, and somehow you think you are going to improve upon this by adding some additive? Just follow the owners manual, leave the oil in, and stay away from your snake oil. Although we all know you're going to do it anyhow.
 
Leave it in till you hit the severe change interval and also change filter, I did that with my 01 civic and its still running like new with 153k!
 
Let me try again. I DO NOT WANT Moly in there. Honda most likely uses it because it is cheap and readily available. My choice is other.

I am trying to find out if there is anything else unique in the initial oil that is doing something useful. Please, if anyone can actually provide actual hard information on this specific question.
 
There will be no hard data as these types of disclosure are prohibited. Most engineers sign documents relating to the trade secrets they know, especially the auto industry.

The bottom line is no early change is recommended by the mfgr. That's about it. No one else knows more about what is good for the engine.

Early oil changes are just like bigger filters, a "feel good" mod with no proven benefits, just old school thinking...
 
Originally Posted By: Flareside302
Originally Posted By: atlanta_shooter
I would leave the FF in, see if the dealer would allow me to return it and go buy a 2014 Mazda CX-5 2.5L.
wow.. Way to make a extremely negative 1st post..


Well, this poster did wait 8.5 years to make their first post so I guess it needed to make an impact.
 
I've owned 4 Hondas (03 Accord, 04 Accord, 08 Accord, 12 Civic).

Number of times the FF was changed early: 0
Number of times the engine needed to be rebuilt or replaced: 0
Number of times special additives were dumped into the engine: 0

Honda's track record for long lasting engines speaks for itself.
 
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