But does it get good gas mileage...???
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2012 Grand Cherokee SRT-8
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I think its a case of manufacturers pulling out all the stops before CAFE laws take them off the market.The horsepower wars are stupid,and getting completely out of hand.A vehicle gets 12-14 mpg with 400hp lets say,wouldnt that rig get much better if it only had to push out say 200hp? Geos and Hondas that got 50mpg were HP rated at 50-70hp...now they are lucky to hit 35mpg.Of course carmakers think that if the choices are taken away from carbuyers,sales will go down.Well thats foolhardy,how many SRT8s and even R/Ts are sold vs base V6 models? The performance market is reletively small,and they wont just stop buying vehicles period if HP drops (the 1970s were banner years for sales,and most rigs were rated at 120-150hp).
I work for a family who owns the biggest Chrysler dealership in central FL, they say the only car they sell regularly is the SRT lineup. This includes Chargers, Jeeps, and 300C's.
he wants to buy my garage kept baby as he doesn't care if it's new or used! He just knows it'll sell.
he wants to buy my garage kept baby as he doesn't care if it's new or used! He just knows it'll sell.
That thing is so mint it blows my mind.
I have always loved the SRT8 Jeep and I don't even love SUV's..
DO WANT.
I have always loved the SRT8 Jeep and I don't even love SUV's..
DO WANT.
I was kidding about the mileage. No one buys this type of vehicle and is concerned about that.
And, for the record...I want one.
It reminds me of my 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 5.9 litre V8, 245HP and 345 lb-ft of torque. The best I ever saw was 17mpg on the highway at 110km/h with the cruise on. The worst was 9mpg in a brutal snowstorm.
Horribly undependable (I truly think I had a lemon - they couldn't all have been as bad as mine), but every time I started it and heard the 3" stainless exhaust burble, I smiled.
And, for the record...I want one.
It reminds me of my 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 5.9 litre V8, 245HP and 345 lb-ft of torque. The best I ever saw was 17mpg on the highway at 110km/h with the cruise on. The worst was 9mpg in a brutal snowstorm.
Horribly undependable (I truly think I had a lemon - they couldn't all have been as bad as mine), but every time I started it and heard the 3" stainless exhaust burble, I smiled.
Originally Posted By: rcy
I was kidding about the mileage. No one buys this type of vehicle and is concerned about that.
And, for the record...I want one.
It reminds me of my 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 5.9 litre V8, 245HP and 345 lb-ft of torque. The best I ever saw was 17mpg on the highway at 110km/h with the cruise on. The worst was 9mpg in a brutal snowstorm.
Horribly undependable (I truly think I had a lemon - they couldn't all have been as bad as mine), but every time I started it and heard the 3" stainless exhaust burble, I smiled.
That is why those Limiteds are so good. The sound and uniqueness was unparalleled at the time. I love the 5.9 Limited and truthfully I'm surprised it wasn't reliable. The engines used in all those vehicles at the time were old tried and true designs (the 360 included) and I have known a few people to own 318 and 4L powered Jeeps and they are rocks. Terrible gas mileage, but usually solid.
I was kidding about the mileage. No one buys this type of vehicle and is concerned about that.
And, for the record...I want one.
It reminds me of my 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 5.9 litre V8, 245HP and 345 lb-ft of torque. The best I ever saw was 17mpg on the highway at 110km/h with the cruise on. The worst was 9mpg in a brutal snowstorm.
Horribly undependable (I truly think I had a lemon - they couldn't all have been as bad as mine), but every time I started it and heard the 3" stainless exhaust burble, I smiled.
That is why those Limiteds are so good. The sound and uniqueness was unparalleled at the time. I love the 5.9 Limited and truthfully I'm surprised it wasn't reliable. The engines used in all those vehicles at the time were old tried and true designs (the 360 included) and I have known a few people to own 318 and 4L powered Jeeps and they are rocks. Terrible gas mileage, but usually solid.
Originally Posted By: SLCraig
Originally Posted By: rcy
I was kidding about the mileage. No one buys this type of vehicle and is concerned about that.
And, for the record...I want one.
It reminds me of my 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 5.9 litre V8, 245HP and 345 lb-ft of torque. The best I ever saw was 17mpg on the highway at 110km/h with the cruise on. The worst was 9mpg in a brutal snowstorm.
Horribly undependable (I truly think I had a lemon - they couldn't all have been as bad as mine), but every time I started it and heard the 3" stainless exhaust burble, I smiled.
That is why those Limiteds are so good. The sound and uniqueness was unparalleled at the time. I love the 5.9 Limited and truthfully I'm surprised it wasn't reliable. The engines used in all those vehicles at the time were old tried and true designs (the 360 included) and I have known a few people to own 318 and 4L powered Jeeps and they are rocks. Terrible gas mileage, but usually solid.
I should have been more specific. First, I no longer have this vehicle. Second, the engine was rock solid - the rest of the vehicle - not so much. In roughly 35000km and 18 months, I got a new rear axle, new front driveshaft, new halfshafts, new CV joints, A/C receiver/drier replaced, sunroof replaced, DRL module replaced, one front caliper seized (while I was driving no less) and that led to new caliper/rotors..there was more..I just can't remember it all.
It was all under warranty but what a pain in the [censored] always dropping off at dealership.
Originally Posted By: rcy
I was kidding about the mileage. No one buys this type of vehicle and is concerned about that.
And, for the record...I want one.
It reminds me of my 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 5.9 litre V8, 245HP and 345 lb-ft of torque. The best I ever saw was 17mpg on the highway at 110km/h with the cruise on. The worst was 9mpg in a brutal snowstorm.
Horribly undependable (I truly think I had a lemon - they couldn't all have been as bad as mine), but every time I started it and heard the 3" stainless exhaust burble, I smiled.
That is why those Limiteds are so good. The sound and uniqueness was unparalleled at the time. I love the 5.9 Limited and truthfully I'm surprised it wasn't reliable. The engines used in all those vehicles at the time were old tried and true designs (the 360 included) and I have known a few people to own 318 and 4L powered Jeeps and they are rocks. Terrible gas mileage, but usually solid.
I should have been more specific. First, I no longer have this vehicle. Second, the engine was rock solid - the rest of the vehicle - not so much. In roughly 35000km and 18 months, I got a new rear axle, new front driveshaft, new halfshafts, new CV joints, A/C receiver/drier replaced, sunroof replaced, DRL module replaced, one front caliper seized (while I was driving no less) and that led to new caliper/rotors..there was more..I just can't remember it all.
It was all under warranty but what a pain in the [censored] always dropping off at dealership.
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
I think its a case of manufacturers pulling out all the stops before CAFE laws take them off the market.The horsepower wars are stupid,and getting completely out of hand.A vehicle gets 12-14 mpg with 400hp lets say,wouldnt that rig get much better if it only had to push out say 200hp? Geos and Hondas that got 50mpg were HP rated at 50-70hp...now they are lucky to hit 35mpg.Of course carmakers think that if the choices are taken away from carbuyers,sales will go down.Well thats foolhardy,how many SRT8s and even R/Ts are sold vs base V6 models? The performance market is reletively small,and they wont just stop buying vehicles period if HP drops (the 1970s were banner years for sales,and most rigs were rated at 120-150hp).
Just because you don't like these types of vehicles does not mean there isn't a market for them. I see plenty of SRT8's on the road. I know plenty of people such as myself who could really care less about getting 40mpg and having to drive a small dull econo car to get it. I will choose more power and features with 25mpg and am completely happy with it. You do hit the nail on the head though in how we used to get near 50mpg with Geos and such and now can hardly break 35mpg in todays equivalents. That's the cost of increased safety and other gov't regulations.
I think its a case of manufacturers pulling out all the stops before CAFE laws take them off the market.The horsepower wars are stupid,and getting completely out of hand.A vehicle gets 12-14 mpg with 400hp lets say,wouldnt that rig get much better if it only had to push out say 200hp? Geos and Hondas that got 50mpg were HP rated at 50-70hp...now they are lucky to hit 35mpg.Of course carmakers think that if the choices are taken away from carbuyers,sales will go down.Well thats foolhardy,how many SRT8s and even R/Ts are sold vs base V6 models? The performance market is reletively small,and they wont just stop buying vehicles period if HP drops (the 1970s were banner years for sales,and most rigs were rated at 120-150hp).
Just because you don't like these types of vehicles does not mean there isn't a market for them. I see plenty of SRT8's on the road. I know plenty of people such as myself who could really care less about getting 40mpg and having to drive a small dull econo car to get it. I will choose more power and features with 25mpg and am completely happy with it. You do hit the nail on the head though in how we used to get near 50mpg with Geos and such and now can hardly break 35mpg in todays equivalents. That's the cost of increased safety and other gov't regulations.
Originally Posted By: SLCraig
Originally Posted By: rcy
I was kidding about the mileage. No one buys this type of vehicle and is concerned about that.
And, for the record...I want one.
It reminds me of my 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 5.9 litre V8, 245HP and 345 lb-ft of torque. The best I ever saw was 17mpg on the highway at 110km/h with the cruise on. The worst was 9mpg in a brutal snowstorm.
Horribly undependable (I truly think I had a lemon - they couldn't all have been as bad as mine), but every time I started it and heard the 3" stainless exhaust burble, I smiled.
That is why those Limiteds are so good. The sound and uniqueness was unparalleled at the time. I love the 5.9 Limited and truthfully I'm surprised it wasn't reliable. The engines used in all those vehicles at the time were old tried and true designs (the 360 included) and I have known a few people to own 318 and 4L powered Jeeps and they are rocks. Terrible gas mileage, but usually solid.
My 5.9 has been pretty rock solid since I've owned it. It's had its issues, but never left me stranded. Yeah, the mpg sucks (stock was about 17.5 with the cruise set at 60, and 12 - 13 around town). I'm actually doing better on the highway (18 - 19 mpg with cruise at 60) since the head/cam swap. Still working on the tuning, but it's pretty close, although a bit rich at idle and WOT still.
It's fun as all heck (especially with a 242 t-case swap so I've got 2wd), and does things no off-road capable box on wheels should (still need to time the 0-60 with mods, but it should be around 6 seconds).
Yours sounds like it definitely had a lot of uncommon issues. Periodic sunroof issues and some rear axle bearing issues (due to assembly issues at the factory) weren't too uncommon, although my axle is still quiet (and original) at 122k miles. The sunroof controller is a hair flaky though (bad solder joint, easy enough to fix).
Originally Posted By: rcy
I was kidding about the mileage. No one buys this type of vehicle and is concerned about that.
And, for the record...I want one.
It reminds me of my 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited. 5.9 litre V8, 245HP and 345 lb-ft of torque. The best I ever saw was 17mpg on the highway at 110km/h with the cruise on. The worst was 9mpg in a brutal snowstorm.
Horribly undependable (I truly think I had a lemon - they couldn't all have been as bad as mine), but every time I started it and heard the 3" stainless exhaust burble, I smiled.
That is why those Limiteds are so good. The sound and uniqueness was unparalleled at the time. I love the 5.9 Limited and truthfully I'm surprised it wasn't reliable. The engines used in all those vehicles at the time were old tried and true designs (the 360 included) and I have known a few people to own 318 and 4L powered Jeeps and they are rocks. Terrible gas mileage, but usually solid.
My 5.9 has been pretty rock solid since I've owned it. It's had its issues, but never left me stranded. Yeah, the mpg sucks (stock was about 17.5 with the cruise set at 60, and 12 - 13 around town). I'm actually doing better on the highway (18 - 19 mpg with cruise at 60) since the head/cam swap. Still working on the tuning, but it's pretty close, although a bit rich at idle and WOT still.
It's fun as all heck (especially with a 242 t-case swap so I've got 2wd), and does things no off-road capable box on wheels should (still need to time the 0-60 with mods, but it should be around 6 seconds).
Yours sounds like it definitely had a lot of uncommon issues. Periodic sunroof issues and some rear axle bearing issues (due to assembly issues at the factory) weren't too uncommon, although my axle is still quiet (and original) at 122k miles. The sunroof controller is a hair flaky though (bad solder joint, easy enough to fix).
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I have a 5.9 in my 2000 durango and not a single issue with it or anything else. Only gets about 16 mpg but hey that is what it was rated for.
Per the SRT8 Jeep, what an awesome vehicle, everyone should be privaleged to own something that nice at least once in their lifetime.
Per the SRT8 Jeep, what an awesome vehicle, everyone should be privaleged to own something that nice at least once in their lifetime.
It's disappointing that it doesn't perform as well as the last generation. At least the interior looks better.
That's because of the usual addition to any new and improved model... WEIGHT!
We've just got to quit getting heavier every year!
We've just got to quit getting heavier every year!
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
That's because of the usual addition to any new and improved model... WEIGHT!
We've just got to quit getting heavier every year!
I flirted with buying one a few years ago, but couldn't get over how bad the interior looked. Now it's much better looking, but it's heavier and slower.
That's because of the usual addition to any new and improved model... WEIGHT!
We've just got to quit getting heavier every year!
I flirted with buying one a few years ago, but couldn't get over how bad the interior looked. Now it's much better looking, but it's heavier and slower.
Actually it's not really slower. The new 6.4 engine is a MOUNTAIN of power even at very low rpms, and the truck is running into the 12's.
You talk like it is some kind of dog. You have to spend 80g to beat it.
You talk like it is some kind of dog. You have to spend 80g to beat it.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Actually it's not really slower. The new 6.4 engine is a MOUNTAIN of power even at very low rpms, and the truck is running into the 12's.
You talk like it is some kind of dog. You have to spend 80g to beat it.
Well I could just buy an older model for less money and outperform it. That was the point I was making.
Actually it's not really slower. The new 6.4 engine is a MOUNTAIN of power even at very low rpms, and the truck is running into the 12's.
You talk like it is some kind of dog. You have to spend 80g to beat it.
Well I could just buy an older model for less money and outperform it. That was the point I was making.
NBD, it's still cool.
The first gen model was kinda nice, and it actually handled pretty well. This new one is downright posh, wait till you get a load of their new high line interior. It is OUTRAGEOUS!
The first gen model was kinda nice, and it actually handled pretty well. This new one is downright posh, wait till you get a load of their new high line interior. It is OUTRAGEOUS!
Originally Posted By: A_A_G
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
You talk like it is some kind of dog. You have to spend 80g to beat it.
Nope, a $30k base model Mustang GT will do it
. But you're right, no other SUV can touch it for the price.
Hello? Pick something AWD, or at least relevant.
It's very far from that stang.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
You talk like it is some kind of dog. You have to spend 80g to beat it.
Nope, a $30k base model Mustang GT will do it
Hello? Pick something AWD, or at least relevant.
It's very far from that stang.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: A_A_G
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
You talk like it is some kind of dog. You have to spend 80g to beat it.
Nope, a $30k base model Mustang GT will do it
. But you're right, no other SUV can touch it for the price.
Hello? Pick something AWD, or at least relevant.
It's very far from that stang.
Why does it have to be AWD Steve? You aren't going far off-road with those wheels and tires and I bet you can't fit anything remotely off-roady with those brakes anyway.
Originally Posted By: A_A_G
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
You talk like it is some kind of dog. You have to spend 80g to beat it.
Nope, a $30k base model Mustang GT will do it
Hello? Pick something AWD, or at least relevant.
It's very far from that stang.
Why does it have to be AWD Steve? You aren't going far off-road with those wheels and tires and I bet you can't fit anything remotely off-roady with those brakes anyway.
All I'm saying is any buyer looking at an AWD SUV is not comparing it to a Mustang 2 door! They're not equivalent vehicles for any comparison, and they're not even in a similar price bracket.
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