But those fervent, diesel-deprived remaining 1% of Americans are so desperate that they'll even resort to buying VWs.
My ideal car is the TSX wagon diesel, and I'm wondering how easy it would be to get a Euro Accord diesel into the U.S...
2010 Honda Accord Diesel
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But those fervent, diesel-deprived remaining 1% of Americans are so desperate that they'll even resort to buying VWs.
My ideal car is the TSX wagon diesel, and I'm wondering how easy it would be to get a Euro Accord diesel into the U.S...
Tosh, three letters will put the kabosh on your idea of bringing a Euro Accord to the US of A, ........E.P.A. Of course if American Honda wants to offer a diesel in the American market, I am all for it!
Be careful, those gallons may be Imperial gallons, and are bigger than US gallons.
The model I'm looking at has combined fuel economy of:
5.5L/100km
or
51.4 MPG
That looks like MPG using imperial gallons.
Figuring using US gallons, you get 42.8MPG combined.
Still not bad, but don't get trapped by the bigger imperial gallon.
The model I'm looking at has combined fuel economy of:
5.5L/100km
or
51.4 MPG
That looks like MPG using imperial gallons.
Figuring using US gallons, you get 42.8MPG combined.
Still not bad, but don't get trapped by the bigger imperial gallon.
The diesel Accord is a stick shift, so most US drivers will not get the high mpg. Diesels and automatics are not as good at load following, except in 1st and 2nd gear, for fuel economy.
BTW, it is a great stick shift, very precise and smooth.
BTW, it is a great stick shift, very precise and smooth.
The new Jetta with the 2.0 common rail will blow the Accord out of the water.
Passat not reliable, please...check with Honda's on automatics.
Passat not reliable, please...check with Honda's on automatics.
Last years price increase ,diesel was higher priced.
That is a diesel vehicle. It has no hybrid components.
When I filled up yesterday, diesel was 8 cents cheaper than 87 octane gasoline.
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Yes, Europeans in general are much less 'consumeristic' than North Americans. They judge based on actual merits a lot more so than abstractions like reputation and image. Of course theyre not all like that
Not when it comes to cell phones.
That is what I was thinking, although even if the highway fuel economy is 40 mpg, it will be a huge hit in the United States.
Oh yeah, the Chevette diesel -- now that was a car! Perhaps if there had been a turbo on one of these (and of course, if GM had done 'em right...), the diesel wouldn't have the ever-lasting black-eye that it seems to have here in the 'States.
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What would be even better would be to see one or more of these diesels grafted into a hybrid design. Diesel cars, of course, waste as much energy as any other conventional does in deceleration and braking. Not only does the hybrid recapture and reuse this otherwise lost energy, but the ECU "intelligently" doles it back out, allowing optimum use of the internal combustion engine when it must run. This benefit would be no different for an oil burner (except for the tuning specifics).
All things being equal, I'd love a Passat. But Honda's transmission issues seem to be remedied. VW's reliability issues are still nagging them. I love Euro and Japanese cars but if I had to pic one for my wife or daughters to drive and be carefree, I'm NOT picking a VW. At least not until my wife gets over her fears and lets me teach the girls how to wrench. If nothing more, a broke Honda will probably still have higher resale than a broke VW.
I've never heard of someone adopting their wife's own fears. Usually the woman is the one who unfoundedly worries about everything, until theyve been rest-assured at the water-cooler. Does it ever make people who are scared of brand-X cars how other people are doing so well with them? Maybe always being the loyal "reliability brand" patron is making you lose out! Personally, I'd take a VW over a Honda anyday, much nicer materials, much better looking, more luxurious really. And I'm not a VW fan. Just a defender of the underdog and the wrongly-accused!
Normally that is true but recall that Honda's automatics are more like electromechanically activated manual transmissions - that's one of the reasons they are so more efficient as compared to /other/ automatics. In most cases you get a 1-2 mpg penalty - in some cases the autos actually *improve* mileage because it can keep the engine where it is more efficient.
The legislators do not have the ability to talk engineering and manufacturing and come up with a set of rules to follow for emissions. They are taking the easy way and say it's a blanket 30%. They have solved the problem, get some good ink and they are done. They will drive the problem until it becomes a major failure and what ever can be done in a realistic fashion will finally be done. In the end, your basic transportation commuter will cost $50k and you won't be able to change your own oil with out a ten thousand dollar epa license and a hazardeous waste disposal permit. If you skip the $500 oil change and emissions test required every 5k miles you will be fined and noted as an environmental violater and your registeration will go up next year. Fail three times and you will get a special license plate to identify you as a violater. If you buy a qualified diesel you will have to have a license for the chemical processing plant that is down stream from the exhaust valves. Life will be wonderful.
Why should the legislators need to talk engineering? That's what the Energy Department (corn and oil lobby) is for. Because if you ask any other unbiased engineer (even 100 years ago), he would explain that any heat engine (steam, diesel, gas, jet, whatever) is a huge waste of energy because of the thermal bottleneck. So electric is the only way to go if you want to pretend to be striving for efficiency. (And I like diesels...)
I'm not adopting my wife's or anyone elses fears. I've owned 1 BMW, 1 Ford, 1 Honda, 1 Mitsu, and 2 SAABs. The Honda is the only one that would feel completely comfortable with from a maintenance standpoint. Are Hondas boring? Heck yeah. I was glad to give my Honda to my wife to drive because it was a snoozer to drive. I wrench on my cars and have no fear of any mechanical problem short of complete engine replacement. You take the bad with the good because Euro cars are so dang enjoyable to drive. You can make repair after repair but Euro cars will keep going until you just get tired of them. Quality is not abysmal by any means but speaking in terms of pure reliability, I'm not gonna pick a VW over a Honda.
Nissan is doing the same with the Maxima
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/18/nissan-will-sell-diesel-maxima-in-u-s-by-2010/#comments
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/18/nissan-will-sell-diesel-maxima-in-u-s-by-2010/#comments
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