2000 4Runner needing injectors for 3rd time

[Nukeman7]

Did you call them and ask them if the truly rebuild them, or do they refurbish them? My research found that an injector is sealed, and that the internals cannot be replaced. They can only be cleaned, the o-rings and screens replaced, followed by a flow test. I'd be curious if they can actually rebuild them and prove it. I'm not saying they can't since research online can only result in so much information, but I would be curious of what they say.

There is nothing to replace beyond the o- ring. Maybe the spring? It’s just a needle valve, an electrical coil and a spring. I assume they get gummed up and an ultrasonic cleaning fixes that?

Having said that I am also in the camp that they should rarely fail. My 415,000 mile xterra is on original injectors. My Frontier has 225K - all original injectors.

The OP's research is correct in regards to cleaning and servicing a sealed fuel injector. I would have sent the injectors to esteemed BITOG expert @Trav who operates Hurst Injector Service in MA. I'm certain he would have gotten you squared away for $112 or provided you with good advice on alternative solutions.

 

[Astro14]

The OP's research is correct in regards to cleaning and servicing a sealed fuel injector. I would have sent the injectors to esteemed BITOG expert @Trav who operates Hurst Injector Service in MA. I'm certain he would have gotten you squared away for $112 or provided you with good advice on alternative solutions.

I’ll second that - @Trav has done many sets of injectors for me - Bosch, mostly - and they have all worked flawlessly afterwards. The performance increase on a high mileage car is noticeable.

 

[Goodkat]

I'm getting ready to send mone to the fuel injector rebuild company in Georgia, then be fone with it.

Maybe its worth also calling Hurst Injectors Service for a second opinion and another option to you.

The OP's research is correct in regards to cleaning and servicing a sealed fuel injector. I would have sent the injectors to esteemed BITOG expert @Trav who operates Hurst Injector Service in MA. I'm certain he would have gotten you squared away for $112 or provided you with good advice on alternative solutions.

Thanks for the info, it never hurts to have other options. If I had had more time or another vehicle to drive while the 4Runner was down, I would have tried an options such as Hurst. My only option was riding my Moto Guzzi motorcycle to work in 35°, with chances of rain. I just needed to get it done, I plan on keeping the 3rd Gen 4Runner, and they hold their value. In this particular case, as much as I didn't like paying $1200, I felt it was justifiable.

 

[Astro14]

Maybe its worth also calling Hurst Injectors Service for a second opinion and another option to you.



Thanks for the info, it never hurts to have other options. If I had had more time or another vehicle to drive while the 4Runner was down, I would have tried an options such as Hurst. My only option was riding my Moto Guzzi motorcycle to work in 35°, with chances of rain. I just needed to get it done, I plan on keeping the 3rd Gen 4Runner, and they hold their value. In this particular case, as much as I didn't like paying $1200, I felt it was justifiable.

I’d gladly pay $1,200 to keep an older car on the road for a few more years, assuming that car, like yours, is a good, reliable car in other respects. I’ve done it many times - there are a lot of high mileage vehicles in my family (see my signature). $1,200 is, what, two car payments on a new car these days?

Riding the ‘Guzzi was not a good option. Glad you got the Toyota squared away.

 

[Goodkat]

I’d gladly pay $1,200 to keep an older car on the road for a few more years, assuming that car, like yours, is a good, reliable car in other respects. I’ve done it many times - there are a lot of high mileage vehicles in my family (see my signature). $1,200 is, what, two car payments on a new car these days?

Riding the ‘Guzzi was not a good option. Glad you got the Toyota squared away.

Hell, for a lot of people that might be one monthly payment for a truck or SUV. Stuff is stupid expensive and I refuse to pay it.

I don't know if you've seen the interviews with Nate from Next-Gen Drivetrain telling people not to buy new cars because of the their planned obsolescence, poor engineering, and data mining. The guy seems to be intelligent and he's a good listen. He views himself as a whistle blower for the auto industry.

 

[Astro14]

Well - that’s about what a monthly payment would be on my wife’s new Volvo. Her old one had 308,000 miles when we bought the new one.

Not sure that I buy the “planned obsolescence” as being true today, any more than it was true in the 1950s when the term was first coined. New cars aren’t junk - my 2016 truck is well made, with quality materials - my wife’s 2025 SUV is well made, with quality materials, and thoughtful engineering throughout - including things like aluminum (not stamped steel) suspension components, and easily-replaceable air springs.