1999 Columbine n Colorado

[CourierDriver]

My take on how to spot or to raise my alert status on people in public: Now someone in here will go ballistic , so this is my own awareness ideas and is not, repeat, not the gospel:

I look for the multicolor hair people, or another unusal color
bright pink and so on, the multi metal faces with stuff stuck in their ears, lips, eyebrows etc. The trechcoat crowd with combat boots, yes they are in Cookeville tn too. Multi clothes colorings that look like a circus clown.

Places not to stay to long: Any fast food chain, lots of visitations done there and lots of tempers still going on long after the child is awarded custody to another person , McDonalds is bad for this stuff. Well thats a few of my ideas, no its not the gospel, any place can get ugly, yes, anyplace.

 

[surfstar]

^you're so statiscally off its funny. I'd hate to see the world through your lenses.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
My take on how to spot or to raise my alert status on people in public: Now someone in here will go ballistic , so this is my own awareness ideas and is not, repeat, not the gospel:

I look for the multicolor hair people, or another unusal color
bright pink and so on, the multi metal faces with stuff stuck in their ears, lips, eyebrows etc. The trechcoat crowd with combat boots, yes they are in Cookeville tn too. Multi clothes colorings that look like a circus clown.

Places not to stay to long: Any fast food chain, lots of visitations done there and lots of tempers still going on long after the child is awarded custody to another person , McDonalds is bad for this stuff. Well thats a few of my ideas, no its not the gospel, any place can get ugly, yes, anyplace.





Those guys just want you to play the card game "magic the gathering" with you. But those guys do scare me.

 

[Tempest]

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This rugged individualism, I believe, is a natural forbearer to a culture of violence.

So people on welfare and government assistance are less likely to be violent than people that earn their own way?
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a concentration on the adversarial nature of competition for artificially-limited resources

Who was this guy competing with and for what resources? What aspect of life is free from competition in more "social" cultures?

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lessen the respect for the sacredness of human life.

Hard work and self reliance makes people want to go out and shoot people?

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I think that for every "x" number of people who do what they're supposed to do and work hard and live decent lives there are going to be "y" number of people who finds themselves isolated on the fringes of society.

And this only occurs in the US due to our "individualist" culture?

In fact, you don't see rugged individualists doing things like this. You see people that want fame or are simply just nuts doing things like this. It occurs in every country throughout history.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
You call people who enjoy firearms and their constitutional right to use them "extremists"?


Nope, NOT AT ALL.

I NEVER HAVE, nor NEVER WILL advocate for, or show support for the banning of sane firearms, not even your beloved 'assault rifles'.

BUT, yes, I DO believe that auto/semi-auto magazines for the general populace MUST be limited to low(er) capacities, so that the next time one of these berserkos goes all Rambo in a public place, the unarmed innocent (you see, I just CANNOT blame/fault the victims for being unarmed like most on here can, will, and do) at least will have a CHANCE of living, and stopping/tackling the butcher while he changes magazines/clips.

Those who call the above a "slippery slope", or an "impingement on our freedoms" are the purists and extremists I am speaking of (like your Mr. LaPierre) who with much paranoia, and fear-mongering claims that this means "they are coming for our guns".

PULEEEZE!

Those innocent/unarmed citizens have more of a "right"/chance to stay alive than some lazy 'enthusiast' has to not have to reload more often.

 

[Tempest]

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BUT, yes, I DO believe that auto/semi-auto magazines for the general populace MUST be limited to low(er) capacities, so that the next time one of these berserkos goes all Rambo in a public place, the unarmed innocent (you see, I just CANNOT blame/fault the victims for being unarmed like most on here can, will, and do) at least will have a CHANCE of living, and stopping/tackling the butcher while he changes magazines/clips.

Where did he get the tear gas from? Not exactly easy to get.

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Those who call the above a "slippery slope", or an "impingement on our freedoms" are the purists and extremists I am speaking of (like your Mr. LaPierre) who with much paranoia, and fear-mongering claims that this means "they are coming for our guns". smirk PULEEEZE!

Yeah, it's not like there was a 10 year ban on high capacity magazines or anything..... Just pure paranoia and fear mongering, eh?
Or that violent crime has continued to drop since it's lapse...

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver

BUT, yes, I DO believe that auto/semi-auto magazines for the general populace MUST be limited to low(er) capacities


I just proved to you in an earlier post that with proper training and techniques, a person can reload a 20 round magazine within seconds. Given the fact that high cap magazines jam often, wouldn't you agree that banning them won't solve anything? Given the fact his gun jammed, if he'd have trained in rapid reloading techniques with smaller magazines, he might have killed even more people.

So what's your proposal for dealing with that? See how that slippery slope works?

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
Yeah, it's not like there was a 10 year ban on high capacity magazines or anything..... Just pure paranoia and fear mongering, eh?


Right, and who exactly came for your other weapons during that time, some imaginary 'boogeyman'?! OH NOES!

YES, like I said, pure paranoia and fear-mongering for political gain/control, and firearms industry profits from your 'illustrious' leader.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: dailydriver

BUT, yes, I DO believe that auto/semi-auto magazines for the general populace MUST be limited to low(er) capacities


I just proved to you in an earlier post that with proper training and techniques, a person can reload a 20 round magazine within seconds. Given the fact that high cap magazines jam often, wouldn't you agree that banning them won't solve anything? Given the fact his gun jammed, if he'd have trained in rapid reloading techniques with smaller magazines, he might have killed even more people.

So what's your proposal for dealing with that? See how that slippery slope works?


Those "seconds" of a break from the 10+ rps (taking for granted that it was un-modified to fire more rapidly) spray STILL would have allowed those on the fringes of the tear gas effect to charge him, NO MATTER how "well trained" he was or was not, and high capacity magazines are NOT GUARANTEED to jam in all scenarios.
10 rounds should be the limit, not even 20.

Nope, still do not see the "slippery slope" of your 'fearless leader'.

 

[Drew99GT]

If you don't see the slippery slope, then you haven't even grasped the concept of why the founding father's gave us the 2nd amendment. Sigh.

You do realize, as sad as the shooting was, that in the grand scheme of preventable death causes, firearms homicides are at the bottom (and mass shootings are probably 1% of total shootings)? Do you propose banning all the top causes of preventable death, if your goal is saving lives? Or are you just emotionally attached to your dislike of guns and gun owners???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_preventable_causes_of_death#Leading_causes_in_the_United_States

 

[rjundi]

I support banning this thread.

 

[dwcopple]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
I think this guy was a mind controlled manchurian candidate probably programmed by a MK Ultra project. NSA, DIA, definitely appears to be a psy op.


interestingly there was a FBI alert posted back in May 2012 that suggested that "terrorists" would attack movie theaters. Just after the incident in Aurora CO the page was removed from the FBI site. Coincidence ? Nope.
You nailed it on the head. It is the uninformed and close-minded that think otherwise. Rumor is he got a phone call before exiting to go get his equipment. Quite an opportune time to get a "code word".

 

[chevrofreak]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: dailydriver

BUT, yes, I DO believe that auto/semi-auto magazines for the general populace MUST be limited to low(er) capacities


I just proved to you in an earlier post that with proper training and techniques, a person can reload a 20 round magazine within seconds. Given the fact that high cap magazines jam often, wouldn't you agree that banning them won't solve anything? Given the fact his gun jammed, if he'd have trained in rapid reloading techniques with smaller magazines, he might have killed even more people.

So what's your proposal for dealing with that? See how that slippery slope works?


Those "seconds" of a break from the 10+ rps (taking for granted that it was un-modified to fire more rapidly) spray STILL would have allowed those on the fringes of the tear gas effect to charge him, NO MATTER how "well trained" he was or was not, and high capacity magazines are NOT GUARANTEED to jam in all scenarios.
10 rounds should be the limit, not even 20.

Nope, still do not see the "slippery slope" of your 'fearless leader'.


10 rounds per second? Where did you hear that?

 

[surfstar]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
If you don't see the slippery slope, then you haven't even grasped the concept of why the founding father's gave us the 2nd amendment. Sigh.


The founding fathers wanted early americans to have the right to keep a militia. The supreme court interpreted it into an individual's right to own guns. [which they had/have every constitutional right to do]
The founding fathers knew nothing of the upcoming zombie apocalypse, although abe lincoln apparently may have.

 

[expat]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
If you don't see the slippery slope, then you haven't even grasped the concept of why the founding father's gave us the 2nd amendment. Sigh.


The founding fathers wanted early americans to have the right to keep a militia. The supreme court interpreted it into an individual's right to own guns. [which they had/have every constitutional right to do]
The founding fathers knew nothing of the upcoming zombie apocalypse, although abe lincoln apparently may have.

This is the bit I don't understand. The FF's wanted 'state of the art weaponry to be available to Americans.
That, is long gone!
Would anyone contemplate allowing 21 st century 'state of the art weapons into the hands of the general population?

 

[dave1251]

What is hard to understand? The reason why we stood a chance against the British empire was that during the revolutionary war we had superior rifles compared to the British standard issue musket.

 

[SEMI_287]

10 rounds per second? I wasn't aware he was using [censored] gatling gun!

Changing the magazine capacity? In my state I can't own a magazine for my rifles and handguns over 10 rounds. That works..

 

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: expat


This is the bit I don't understand. The FF's wanted 'state of the art weaponry to be available to Americans.
That, is long gone!
Would anyone contemplate allowing 21 st century 'state of the art weapons into the hands of the general population?


As weaponry advances so too should the ability of We The People to have sufficient access to the same weapons that the government has so that if needed (now?) we have the ability to remove tyrants from the government.

According to the Founding Father's own definitions we are NOW in a state of TYRANNY and have been for some time, look at how many aspects of our Constitution have been VIOLATED by those in our own government.

This isn't political debate, this is in fact a legal reality.
Our own government is engaged in tyrannical acts and as such are violating our God given and Constitutional rights at this very moment.

 

[Shannow]

I love the FF "brown bess" argument...if they truly beleived that the populace should have been restricted to half a century weaponry, they would have made moves to restrict their "own" (govt's) for parity...

But as they relied on their own superiority to defeat "others", then all should be fair to citizens.

 

[expat]

Originally Posted By: dave1251
What is hard to understand? The reason why we stood a chance against the British empire was that during the revolutionary war we had superior rifles compared to the British standard issue musket.


So Gun ship helicopters, Chemicle weapons, Land mines, heck even a Nuke should be legal?